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Author: | MartinJQuinn [ Fri Mar 27, 2015 9:49 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Scratchbuilding 1/350 USS Saratoga CV-3 (1944) |
I'm running out of superlatives... |
Author: | Cliffy B [ Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:41 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Scratchbuilding 1/350 USS Saratoga CV-3 (1944) |
MartinJQuinn wrote: I'm running out of superlatives... I think we all are Martin |
Author: | Sbouba [ Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:23 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Scratchbuilding 1/350 USS Saratoga CV-3 (1944) |
Steve you're da man! |
Author: | youngtiger1 [ Sun Mar 29, 2015 8:01 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Scratchbuilding 1/350 USS Saratoga CV-3 (1944) |
It's been a while since I login here, but I'm glad I did because Steve you are doing great. I love the Razzle Dazzle scheme your doing. I just traded a kit for a 1/350 Yorktown and I'm thinking about doing in one of these schemes. So, keep up the good work Mike |
Author: | ModelMonkey [ Mon Mar 30, 2015 7:39 pm ] | |||||
Post subject: | Re: Scratchbuilding 1/350 USS Saratoga CV-3 (1944) | |||||
Thank you, Martin, Cliffy, Jean and Mike! After some adjustments to the camouflage, the model's conning tower is becoming more like the actual conning tower in this photo. Still some tweaking to do yet but better. Once it matches the photo, more detailing.
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Author: | Elvis965 [ Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:17 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Scratchbuilding 1/350 USS Saratoga CV-3 (1944) |
Beauteous, Steve! This is going to look soooooooo awesome when it's fully painted! Bob |
Author: | Joe Simon [ Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:21 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Scratchbuilding 1/350 USS Saratoga CV-3 (1944) |
My 12 year old son and I just noticed this thread. Amazing. Fast too! |
Author: | J. Soca [ Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:43 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Scratchbuilding 1/350 USS Saratoga CV-3 (1944) |
WOW! Jose |
Author: | ModelMonkey [ Fri Apr 03, 2015 9:23 am ] | |||||||||||
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Thank you, Bob, Joe and Jose! Some more adjustments to the camouflage scheme and the fabrication and installation of the foremast radar platform have been done. The paint is looking better. A bit more adjustment to do then more detailing.
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Author: | Fliger747 [ Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:08 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Scratchbuilding 1/350 USS Saratoga CV-3 (1944) |
Quite nice Steve! I especially like the ability to see through the portholes around the bridge and the open w/t doors at flight deck level. Always hard to tell much about the camouflage scheme from black and white photos due to variations in the type of film used (ie orthochromatic etc) and filtration. Regards: Tom |
Author: | ModelMonkey [ Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:32 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Scratchbuilding 1/350 USS Saratoga CV-3 (1944) |
Thanks so much, Tom! More work has been done on the hull to tone down the raised strake thickness in preparation for hull completion, specifically, installation of the propeller shaft housings. It's looking very good now compared to photos of the actual ship. But I am a bit torn at the moment and ask for your advice. The model is now at the point where I need to decide whether to use the hull as a master and complete the model with a cast copy (for strength and lasting durability, and to cast copies from it for others who want to build a late-war Sara) or abandon casting and proceed with the hull master as the model. This year I have had just awful casting results. I fear a bad effort will result in a destroyed hull master. But I think Chris Decker is on to something and may have identified my error - pouring the wrong part into the wrong part. See this thread: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=158904 Reader thoughts, as always, are appreciated. |
Author: | marijn van gils [ Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:20 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Scratchbuilding 1/350 USS Saratoga CV-3 (1944) |
I would be very wary of resin shrinkage. Such a large casting would have quite a lot of shrinkage. Warping of the hull over time is another risk to consider. Good resin casting is an art in itself, not easily mastered. Therefore, I see more 'lasting durability' in your master than in a resin casting. I would just go ahead with the 'master' you have now. It should be sturdy enough, and you avoid spending time and money on casting, and you avoid the inherent risks mentioned above and by yourself. The chance of you using the same hull again on another project is probably so small that it is far outweighed by the cons, IMHO. Cheers, Marijn |
Author: | EJFoeth [ Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:47 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Scratchbuilding 1/350 USS Saratoga CV-3 (1944) |
disadvantages in additional to the high cost of the mould and resin! |
Author: | ModelMonkey [ Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:03 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Scratchbuilding 1/350 USS Saratoga CV-3 (1944) |
Thanks, Marijn and EJ, all points well worth considering. |
Author: | MartinJQuinn [ Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:17 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Scratchbuilding 1/350 USS Saratoga CV-3 (1944) |
Unless you plan on selling the master to someone to market the kit, I'd just finish her as is. Brilliant work, can't wait to see her finished! |
Author: | Pierre Marchal [ Tue May 05, 2015 1:43 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Scratchbuilding 1/350 USS Saratoga CV-3 (1944) |
You are doing a wonderfull work . Saratoga is very difficult to build . congratulations . |
Author: | ModelMonkey [ Wed May 06, 2015 2:52 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Scratchbuilding 1/350 USS Saratoga CV-3 (1944) |
Thank you, so much, Martin and Pierre! Propeller shaft housings and the single port-side bilge keel have been installed (no bilge keel on the starboard side). The hull has been primed red oxide (Krylon Red Oxide, a dead ringer for US Navy 121 red oxide) and is nearly ready for paint and further detailing. I'll post photos shortly. |
Author: | taskforce48 [ Sun May 10, 2015 10:54 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Scratchbuilding 1/350 USS Saratoga CV-3 (1944) |
Steve, Haven't checked in with this thread for awhile. I am out of words of praise, you sir are simply setting a whole new standard in scratch building. Shame you weren't able to do the casting, she is a beauty so I understand not wanting to risk it. Looking forward to seeing more! Matt |
Author: | Fliger747 [ Mon May 11, 2015 2:03 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Scratchbuilding 1/350 USS Saratoga CV-3 (1944) |
Steve: It would be great to preserve your hard earned master. The largest resin castings I have made are relatively small 1:192 5" twin mounts. Even in these some shrinkage is possible. I reduced that by making a plug, in this case balsa which filled most of the space and assured minimal shrinkage or warpage. I expect the most reliable method would be to go the proven fiberglass route. A lot of work, maybe worthwhile if perhaps your ship were to be destroyed in an earthquake in the Katmandu Maritime Museum or the possibility of sister ship or different era production might arise. A any rate a superb job! Cheers: Tom |
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