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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 3:35 am 
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Yamato done
I learnt so much, now to apply lessons for what I want to be an absolutely spot on build
Yamato philosophy was everything would be scratch built, Kirishima will be, if I can buy a bit, I will.

Once again, a log of the build, warts and all.
However, (lesson learnt) I intend to use this log also very much as a working log, planning document,
shopping list, everything
I also intend to track very carefully the costs.........

If I remain employed next year, I should have a good budget to work with! as our 25th anniversary cruise will be out of the way.....(the cost of women seems to impede important things like model building far in excess of what is acceptable!) (just kidding)

The plan:
A workshop clean out!!!..LOL
A false ceiling into the workshop.........its too bloody hot in there!
Build a cradle, bench, transporter for the hull.......(and not leave that to last!)
take delivery of the hull
Stock up on every shape of styrene before building, so much time lost for lack of stock on Yamato
Commence stocking up everything else I need as per shopping list
Do the propulsion first!
Do a big, fully accessible everything lift out able deck! (I have planned that already)
Get the ballast right, and all electrics right
Do extensive basin trials at this stage

Then, get into the build
I am planning lights stern, port, stbd, mast, in the bridge, and some port holes
Turrets to turn, and barrels to elevate (I have confidence to do that now)
Director fwd to turn
Catapult to turn

Superstructure to be removable

The shopping list:
I have ordered a hull from Tim at southern cross model, and its paid for (1150 dollars), but don't expect it until realistically until the middle of next year
4 motors
shafting and props ( If I can get loyal hanna again I will,)
proper couplings. grrrrrr
I plan 4 channel RC for propulsion
The other 9 channel for all the other stuff!
2 RC's is better, one for you to drive, one for your friend who you have pressed ganged to help move her to play with!
servos: mini...6 at least (gun elevation, catapult, director)
servos metal: 1....steering: a BIG ONE
servos for turrets...4 big ones

Will again go for 4 ESC's exactly same as Yamato

I need lots of LED lights
Guard rails........what I used on Yamato were great, lots of people "where did ya get them?"
Ships boats: I have found a seller of 1/72 Japanese ww2 ships boats...they look good at a good price
he also does the 25 MM guns ( I am over making them, but have a few left over from Yamato)
Styrene, I am going for 1MM thick, thinner where possible. I have found a bulk supplier
Deck planks.........I probably will go and search for an alternative supplier.......depends . Lesson, buy enough for the whole ship in one batch

Lots of thin wire needed .032 mm (before I forget the size!)
Lesson, the main deck must be good 4 mm marine ply!
deck fittings for securing, lifting out the deck
Timber to support the deck, and bulkheads
PVA glue!
I need a new Jigsaw!
I need lots and lots more clamps!
Fittings various, oh, so many fittings I now know about and wish I'd used last time
And finally, Plans

For Father day I am receiving two books from Profile Moriensky, that polish plans provider
I purchased his plans (110 dollars)

They are simply superb
Right now I am using a favour up, to try to get them laminated
If that falls through, that's the next big expense, about 70 dollars a sheet, times 6 sheets (ouch)

Sorry if this is a boring post, a big lesson from Yamato was I would have a solution for a problem, or I would find a supplier
, and later on forget it!
A lot of projects fall away, I saw Yamato through
I plan , once I receive the hull, for a three year build......


Current costs
Plans 110
Hull 1150
Total 1260 (too much to stop now! LOL)


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 8:29 am 
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You can't go wrong with Tim's hull's they are superbly detailed and super strong! I have a Baltimore Heavy cruiser hull on order from him too...part of a deal with a mate! swapping the Baltimore hull for a partly built Flight1 Arliegh Burke, so he can do USS Canberra (1960's version) and I can do DDG53 USS John Paul Jones.

Good planning list mate!!

Shed tidy takes days and lasts five minutes :lol_3: :lol_3:

Cheers Bruce

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1/72 RC USS SEAWOLF SSN21
1/72 RC USS ALBANY CG10


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 8:36 am 
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I noticed (on the club website)you have joined up with Task Force 72 some of your bits like good motors(not cheap but very effective!) and Esc's you will be able to source cheaper thru the club.

Cheers Bruce

PS George Sitek in UK does custom running sets all you need to do is send him some info on prop diameter, shaft lengths (up to 500mm long, any longer is prone to shaft slap), A frame shapes (send pics or drawings if possible), even get rudders made up...

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1/72 RC USS SEAWOLF SSN21
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 3:54 pm 
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herbieham wrote:
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Ships boats: I have found a seller of 1/72 Japanese ww2 ships boats...they look good at a good price
he also does the 25 MM guns...


Hello

It´s a great idea to keep a log... not only for you, but also for all of us that will follow this thread. I´ve been trying to do the same, with my 1/72 Shokaku...
Could you please share with me who is your supplier? The ship´s boats seems a great deal... also, I´ve been looking for someone to turn me several 25mm (as well as some 127mm) and it´s not been easy...
Thanks for any help.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:04 pm 
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Hi Jose

link to the boats, (and guns) please tell him herbie sent you

http://www.joesmodels.com/choroszy_ships_72_S_.htm


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After witnessing your dramatic finishing of your Yamato, I'm quite looking forward to this next project, Herbie! Are you going to do Kirishima as she was the night she dined on 16in battleship shells until she burst? :big_grin:

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:17 am 
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herbieham wrote:
Hi Jose

link to the boats, (and guns) please tell him herbie sent you

http://www.joesmodels.com/choroszy_ships_72_S_.htm


Thanks... :thumbs_up_1:
BTW, I got the plans for my Shokaku, here:

http://www2.odn.ne.jp/miyukikai/

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 1:24 am 
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Hi guys

Well in keeping with the full record of costs

$43.30, ordered the first of the ships boats from Joe
never worked with resin before, so we learn more stuff again...

boat from
http://www.joesmodels.com/choroszy_ships_72_S_.htm

Will photo and update when it arrives


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 2:53 am 
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Still waiting on Hull, and a bit broke at the moment
However, have received some of the ships boats from Joe
They are great, and his service is excellent, had issues getting his site to work, so
we worked out stuff direct

here are some of the kits

top left one finished
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 11:42 pm 
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purely for mu own records
purchased 90 dollars worth of plastic, 100 dollars worth of ships boats, and 20 dollars of tools

Talked to Tim, hull ready by last quarter of this year

Have begun main deck work/planning, material gathering

In short, finally after a lot of employment issues, we can make a start


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That's great news, herbie! Can't wait to see how things progress, and that you get that hull sooner rather than later... ;)

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1/35 Tamiya "Pibber" Patrol Boat
1/350 Trumpeter USS Yorktown CV-10


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:51 am 
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Well, we all know that moment.
You have that virgin sheet of plans, and you reach for the knife to cut out the first template.
So, we begin!!!

Marine ply, 35 dollars
Other timber
10 dollars
A new jigsaw
45 dollars

Time cutting first template: 2 hrs


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 10:15 pm 
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First plastic cutting

I forgot how good it feels actually constructing stuff

3 hours


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PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2016 1:53 am 
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construction conning tower begins
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PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2016 1:56 am 
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cut out 01 deck, and strengthen it. This entire deck I plan to make removeable

3 hours


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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2016 1:36 am 
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how to remove your deck:

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have a bolt that can be removed, and hide its location under a removable hatch coaming


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3 hours

46 dollars for a nearly 2 sq metre piece of 1 mm styrene sheet


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Interesting subject, looking forward to progress. I like their shape more than Yamato's. Great woodwork so far.

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My favorite IJN BB. I will be following your thread.


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