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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:56 am 
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SS Nomadic, Transborder, the little sister of the Titanic, at 1/200.

Launch at the Harland & Wolff shipyard in Belfast:

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The ship in Cherbourg, France, its home port:

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Other Nomadic Names (1910 - 1934)
Ingénieur Minard (1934 - 1974)
Nomadic (1974 - in service)

Type Transborder/ferry

Length 71,17 m
Width 11.28 m
Tonnage 1,273 t.

Propulsion 2 double expansion compound steam engines
Speed 10 knots

Shipyard Harland & Wolff, in Belfast

Shipowner:

White Star Line (1911 - 1927) Image

Cherbourg transshipment company (1927 - 1934)

Cherbourg Towing and Salvage Company (1934 - 1940)

Royal Navy (1940 - 1945)

Cherbourg Towing and Salvage Company (1945 - 1974)

United Kingdom Pavilion

Construction December 22, 1910
Launch April 25, 1911
Inaugural voyage May 27, 1911

Passengers 1.000

Crew members 14

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The SS Nomadic, sometimes referred to as the "Titanic's little sister", is a White Star Line steamship commissioned in 1911. It is a ferry put into service to embark passengers of the new Olympic class liners in the port of Cherbourg unsuitable for their large size.

At that time, it operated in duo with the Traffic: the Nomadic carried first and second class passengers while the second carried third class passengers and luggage. In 1927, the White Star Line sold it to the Cherbourg Transshipment Company, which used it for the same purpose and with the same name. In 1934, it was sold again, this time to the Cherbourg Towing and Salvage Company, which renamed it Ingénieur Minard.

During the Second World War, the ship manages to escape to Great Britain where it is used by the Royal Navy. It was then returned to the port of Cherbourg, where it was used as a ferry for the Queen Mary and the Queen Elizabeth.

Retired from service in 1968, she was sold to a private individual six years later. The latter transformed it into a floating restaurant on the Seine.

Twenty-five years later, destined for the scrapyard, it was saved by the action of associations which led to its return to Belfast to be restored to its original state.

The Nomadic is the last remaining vessel of the White Star Line that is still (almost) afloat.

http://aftitanic.free.fr/wsl/nomadic_1911.html

https://titanicbelfast.com/Explore/Nomadic-Belfast.aspx

The plan of Bateau Modèles N°105 will help me to model, although it has a small error in the positioning of the hawsers on the side view but not on the front view, nothing serious, the base is good and probably, at first sight, taken from the original plan.

Some modifications have been made over the decades on this ship.

My version will be that of the first two photos, just before the installation of a bridge shelter in Cherbourg to shelter the sailors, the wheelhouse and the chadburn.

http://rms-titanic.fr/otb/index_nomadic.html

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©3D drawing Emil Besirevic.

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The goal of this Nomadic project is to put along side my future Titanic 1/200 from Trumpeter and the ferry as it was during its stopover in Cherbourg in 1912.

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I started 3D drawing a few days ago:

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8 hours 3D printing tonight of the first hull prototype with Anycubic Mono X 3D printer. It's very successful in terms of shape and details, much better than on the T2 tanker, but the resin is broken at the end of printing, a lack of support probably, and a lack of experience on my part with this much faster printer that stresses the part a little more when it tears at the bottom of the tank.

My transparent film at the bottom of the tray is pierced in two places and I don't have a spare for the moment, spare FEP films were supplied with my first Anycubic printer, but not with this one, they are not available on their website (!?).

So I ordered from the "aftermarket" which will probably do the trick.

The main thing is that the model is very clean by itself, and that the printer works perfectly, I will certainly reduce the speed of the stepper motor to avoid this kind of misadventure. That's the game, we learn every day with 3D printing! Holy And mistakes are paid cash...

Hull hollowing:

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Height 180 mm. That is to say half of the ship. Anycubic Mono X printer.

It looks like it hit an iceberg, but from the wrong side! :big_grin:

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This is the best hull surface quality I've been able to print.

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As for the breakage, I think it's a mechanical breakage, it's impressive to see how fast the platen goes up and down, twice as fast as the Phrozen printer. I have already reinforced some parts that are not easily accessible to the supports placed with the chitubox.

The shell is 1mm thick, it's not heavy either. In addition, this printer sticks strongly, to remove an object from the tray, you have to force it. However, I reduced the exposure time of the base to 45 s, I even went down to 20 s for the Harland & Wolff plates (large surface on the tray. It stuck strongly, I broke two of them at liftoff...).

Following the next episode. I cut the hull in two with Fusion to make another test with the Sonic Mini 4K, it will take much more time even at 50 microns.

I haven't placed any mounts yet.

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I worked this weekend on the teak floor of the first deck that I grooved, and on a sheet line test, it's a first, and it's very time consuming, but it looks pretty good.

For the sheet metal lines I did as I could because of the limitations of the program's functions regarding the projection of a plane sheet metal line plane on the curved hull.

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Boilermaking day today, it's very long to realize. I had a little thought for the workers who installed the sheets and rivets at the time...!
I would do the rivet lines with the rivet roulette wheel, once the ship is printed, especially since the hull may need to be sanded a bit.

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•SS Nomadic 3D: https://vu.fr/tAyL
•VLCC Olympic Bravery 3D: https://vu.fr/OZMY
•USS Nokomis 3D: https://vu.fr/kntC
•USS Pamanset 3D: https://vu.fr/jXGQ


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:50 am 
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Very interesting! That the ships were still in existence into the 70's is amazing. The foremast having ratlines is a detail shared with Lusitania. A holdover feature from an earlier age.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 2:47 pm 
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It can now be seen at the Titanic Museum in Belfast, after it was saved in 2006. Its restoration cost 10 millions euros, but it is a symbol for this country.

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https://youtu.be/hFPz3_jANVs


https://youtu.be/rybZx56umPA

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•SS Nomadic 3D: https://vu.fr/tAyL
•VLCC Olympic Bravery 3D: https://vu.fr/OZMY
•USS Nokomis 3D: https://vu.fr/kntC
•USS Pamanset 3D: https://vu.fr/jXGQ


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:32 am 
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Very nice little ship. Looking forward to the rest of the build.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:28 pm 
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Design wise an interesting vessel with the tug boat like bumpers for coming alongside. Another interesting bit of historical marine design is the use of tumblehome, which was quite common in sailing vessels of the narrowly preceding era.

Rank you for broadening our knowledge by an unusual project!

Tom


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Thank you Pieter and Tom.

I moved forward on the forecastle, laid the teck, designed the bollards, portholes, lighting and hatches. Modify the shape of the bow.

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Titanic Bollard, typical Harland & Wolff shipyard design.

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•SS Delphine 3D: https://vu.fr/NeuO
•SS Nomadic 3D: https://vu.fr/tAyL
•VLCC Olympic Bravery 3D: https://vu.fr/OZMY
•USS Nokomis 3D: https://vu.fr/kntC
•USS Pamanset 3D: https://vu.fr/jXGQ


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Interesting that the ship has what appears to be external reinforcement below the waterline, midships. Again a design element for coming alongside of a larger vessel.


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Inside, under the main deck, aft. Before restoration.

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•SS Nomadic 3D: https://vu.fr/tAyL
•VLCC Olympic Bravery 3D: https://vu.fr/OZMY
•USS Nokomis 3D: https://vu.fr/kntC
•USS Pamanset 3D: https://vu.fr/jXGQ


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I added some details today, the bulwark reinforcement legs, air clearance, doors for transhipment, corrected a few mistakes.

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•SS Delphine 3D: https://vu.fr/NeuO
•SS Nomadic 3D: https://vu.fr/tAyL
•VLCC Olympic Bravery 3D: https://vu.fr/OZMY
•USS Nokomis 3D: https://vu.fr/kntC
•USS Pamanset 3D: https://vu.fr/jXGQ


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Drawing of the fairleads.

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Modified to be a little more realistic:

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Later, I had to redo the fairleads because I had not taken into account the thicker bulwark, because of the printing, compared to the 1:1 model. They are a little less successful but will print better because I added a little thickness for the 1/200, they were a little too thin.

Not easy to incorporate.

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•SS Nomadic 3D: https://vu.fr/tAyL
•VLCC Olympic Bravery 3D: https://vu.fr/OZMY
•USS Nokomis 3D: https://vu.fr/kntC
•USS Pamanset 3D: https://vu.fr/jXGQ


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Today I have almost finished the fitting of the hull sheets. Drawing of the ventilation ducts of the forecastle.

Adding the middle transhipment doors.

Corrected some errors.

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•SS Nomadic 3D: https://vu.fr/tAyL
•VLCC Olympic Bravery 3D: https://vu.fr/OZMY
•USS Nokomis 3D: https://vu.fr/kntC
•USS Pamanset 3D: https://vu.fr/jXGQ


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Simplified drawing of the stoppers. I have some modifications to make.

It looks like the Titanic's, but mechanically simpler because of the very low weight of the anchor chain links on the Nomadic.

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Titanic:

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•SS Delphine 3D: https://vu.fr/NeuO
•SS Nomadic 3D: https://vu.fr/tAyL
•VLCC Olympic Bravery 3D: https://vu.fr/OZMY
•USS Nokomis 3D: https://vu.fr/kntC
•USS Pamanset 3D: https://vu.fr/jXGQ


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Small advance today, the windlass. A piece always delicate to draw without a plan. It remains an "evocation"...

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•SS Nomadic 3D: https://vu.fr/tAyL
•VLCC Olympic Bravery 3D: https://vu.fr/OZMY
•USS Nokomis 3D: https://vu.fr/kntC
•USS Pamanset 3D: https://vu.fr/jXGQ


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:23 pm 
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The Mono X printer is repaired, the film in the tray is replaced.

The day's progress, attempt to draw an anchor chain for fun. Anyway... I'll print it to see what it looks like. And I continued with the windlass.

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•SS Nomadic 3D: https://vu.fr/tAyL
•VLCC Olympic Bravery 3D: https://vu.fr/OZMY
•USS Nokomis 3D: https://vu.fr/kntC
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The chain and windlass look good.

I can't make out clearly what you have connecting the chain and the anchor, but normally there would be a shackle connecting the two.

You have done an excellent job creating your model from the 3D CAD drawings to the 3D print.

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Yes Phil, it's not done yet, the job is in progress.. Priority goes to the pieces I'm going to print, chains are just here for a 3D drawing exercice and for the general view of the windlass. :thumbs_up_1:

The design in general is optimised for 3D printing, this windlass will be very small at 1/200. I must not go below 0.3 mm for some parts.

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•SS Nomadic 3D: https://vu.fr/tAyL
•VLCC Olympic Bravery 3D: https://vu.fr/OZMY
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Dismantling a Kenter shackle:

Personal pictures.

Keppel Shipyard Singapore:

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•SS Nomadic 3D: https://vu.fr/tAyL
•VLCC Olympic Bravery 3D: https://vu.fr/OZMY
•USS Nokomis 3D: https://vu.fr/kntC
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The connection scheme must be close to the Titanic's/Olympic's anchors in 1900:

https://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/c ... ize.39247/

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https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/m ... on-9214506

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•SS Nomadic 3D: https://vu.fr/tAyL
•VLCC Olympic Bravery 3D: https://vu.fr/OZMY
•USS Nokomis 3D: https://vu.fr/kntC
•USS Pamanset 3D: https://vu.fr/jXGQ


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Fabulous work Pascal - superb attention to detail and such a great thread, showing off your reference material too.


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Drawing of the engine frame, connecting rods, crossheads, guides shoes, bearings.

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•SS Nomadic 3D: https://vu.fr/tAyL
•VLCC Olympic Bravery 3D: https://vu.fr/OZMY
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