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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:40 pm 
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A little help to Nova73 on his project with a quick drawing of the hull only which will be in waterline mode.

Alain will continue with the superstructure design.

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The information is thin as for the original plan of the hull couples, I found a small triptych of the ship in low resolution and some errors, but it helped me to make the different couples, it is far from being perfect especially the back arch which requires a lot of information and... time.

For waterline, it will pass.

A bit of history:

USS Nokomis (YT-142/YTB-142/YTM-142) was a Woban class harbor tug built in Bremerton, Wash, and assigned to Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, in 1940.

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The Nokomis was present during the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor on 7 December 1941. She was the first ship on the scene of the USS Arizona, and was recalled by the officers on deck because of the impending explosion of the battery below deck. She then went off and helped to beach the USS Nevada, along with the Hoga (YT-146), and the YT-153.

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The grounding of the Nevada prevented the blockage of the entrance to Pearl Harbor. Then the USS Nokomis fought the fires and dried out the battleship USS California for three days. This effort made the California salvageable, to be recommissioned later in the war. The Nokomis was also the last ship to move the surviving YC-699 barge before the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.

The Nokomis accompanying the CV-8 Hornet back to Pearl Harbor after its raid on Tokyo
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After the war, the Nokomis continued to serve the Pearl Harbor ships until it was decommissioned in May 1973 and sold for scrap to Crowley in San Francisco. She was renamed Sea Serpent and served for many years in San Francisco Bay as a tug and fireboat.

In 1989, after the Loma Prieta earthquake in the San Francisco Bay area, the Nokomis and the Hoga (which had served the city of Oakland as a fireboat) again fought fires alongside each other.

According to the Historic Tugboat Education and Restoration Society, the Nokomis was purchased in April 1975 by Crowley Maritime Corporation, and its name was changed to Sea Serpent. She operated in San Francisco Bay as a commercial tug to assist ships in docking. Crowley Maritime ceased operations in the San Francisco area in the early 1990s and the Nokomis was renamed Panamanian and abandoned, like many other tugs, to decay and rust.

She was rediscovered in mid-2002 at the Hunters Point mudflats in San Francisco by tugboat captain Melissa Parker[8]. 8] It was purchased at an auction for $50 for the Historic Tugboat Education and Restoration Society (HTERS) and was originally moored at Pier 80 in San Francisco.

The 501 non-profit organization was dedicated to historical research, hands-on engineering education programs for disadvantaged Bay Area youth, and cooperative programs between historic ship organizations in the San Francisco Bay Area and beyond. HTERS acquired an operational sister tug, the USS Wenonah, with the intention of using the Wenonah as a floating class to engage HTERS to help raise funds to restore the Nokomis.
After falling behind on dock rental fees, the two tugs were moved to Treasure Island, but dock rental and insurance fees continued to accumulate, eventually costing the Historic Tugboat Education and Restoration Society both vessels.

Sinking of the Wenonah ( Sister Ship )

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While moored at Treasure Island, the Wenonah sank in August 2009 and spilled oil into San Francisco Bay. The Coast Guard asked Global Diving to salvage the vessel to prevent further leaks, and Global Diving approached the American Bridge/Fluor Joint Venture to use the Left Coast Lifter crane to salvage the vessel. The Wenonah was turned over to the Coast Guard for disposal, and Bay Ship & Yacht in Alameda took over the lease of Pier 1 at Treasure Island, which included taking possession of the Wenonah and Nokomis. Both vessels were scrapped in 2010 in Alameda.

The Wenonah was a sister ship to the Hoga. It would have been a great resource of parts to restore her. The Nokomis was the oldest surviving naval vessel from the Pearl Harbor attack.

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The barge YC-699 in SF Bay and the tug YT-153 on the East Coast, along with the Hoga, are now the last surviving naval vessels from Pearl Harbor.

http://www.runcornmodelboats.co.uk/USS_Hoga.html

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B32-8Z ... zFGqjQ2rbA

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I still have a lot of work to do.

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This afternoon's progress:

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I have drawn the waterline in relation to the photos, you can see that this tug was ballasted at the back in relation to the horizontal plane of the plan. You will have to keep some in waterline to cut the hull.

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Interesting small ships (barely). I hadn't realized that Bremerton built some of those. The Captain was usually a Chief Bosun's Mate. In the 60's we didn't have the firefighting gear on board. Another Wartime tug we had was the Auxilary Fleet Tug, Tatnuck which served wartime in the Pacific.

Interesting subject!!


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Nice tug! USS Tatnuck (ATA-195). :thumbs_up_1:

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I remember taking Tatnuck up to RCNS Comox (Vancouver Island) for some training with the RCN. Two of the YTB's assigned to PSNS at the time were Mimac and Sabeata. They were maybe decommissioned somewhere circa 1970 along with a lot of the WWII equipment still in service.

Looking forward to the actual construction project, though a larger scale would be fun. I remember gluing (assembling) together a "white plastic" tugboat model when I was maybe 8 years old?

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Tom, you were raised on a bottle full of white glue. :big_grin:

I redrew most of the back, I didn't like it. It's a bit better.

It would also be nice to do it at 1:100, which is about 30 cm long.

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Yes, 1:100 would be a nice scale for this. I can see that fairing the hull lines, especially around the stern is very difficult to get just right. In the Analogue Era, this was called "Lofting"?


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There is, Tom.

If you leave the hull bare, you will only need to sand to reduce the small defects, it is quite easy.

If the hull is covered with sheet metal as I usually do, it will hardly be noticeable.

If I had a precise original drawing of the sections, it would be perfect.

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It's the method I use due to a lack of technical perfection. It's what we call "bend to fit, paint to match".

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I came across a photo in my Dad's album of similar YTM assisting Poseidon mooring in San Diego after the end of the war. Interesting vessels to serve on, new ships, new duties every day.


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USS Narkeeta, YTM 133 coming along side Poseidon ARL 12 at SanDeigo, 1946 on return to USA.


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For what it is worth, the Barbour Boat Works built a lot of tugs for the NAVY (YT, YTL, TYM, YTM-ST, YWN), including YT 138 and YT 144. The plan/blueprints are available in the Barbour Boat Works collection at the Joyner Library at East Carolina University.

https://digital.lib.ecu.edu/special/ead ... at%20Works

Click on the "Print Finding Aids" button to get a list of the items in the collection. Search for "YT".

This list also includes plans for small boats.

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Yes, some good research info there! There are a lot of good archives hiding out there. Rather amazing that NARA is in effect closed as archivists are really mostly isolated as opposed to someone flipping burgers, bus drivers and whatnot. But "Gummit" employees are often immune from the vagaries of employment in what is derisively called the "private sector".

One photo of Nokomis had an unusual feature, on the O1 level a Chief (The Captain?) is stationed on the starboard side aft of the stack, at a wheel, apparently steering her from this open area with excellent views fore and aft. I hadn't seen this setup previously.

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Tks Phil!

Some progress on this project, Alain ( Nova73) only needs the hull, but I'm continuing this 1/350 tug to the end, it's quite "simple", I'm making sure it will be printable in 1/100 as well, so very detailed.

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Sweet! Sweet! Sweet!

That's what first comes to mind.

Oops. I lied.

Actually, the first thought that came to my mind was, "Need any decals?" Ha!! :cool_2: :big_grin:

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No intention to highjack your post. Just having fun.

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The tugs always had a great cuppa in the galley, not bad for Navy Coffee. I remember the Motor Mech, from the Philippines, really nice guy and he loved his engine room. However every other "word" was "Goddamsebielians".

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I might be interested! :thumbs_up_1:

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Sweet! Sweet! Sweet!

That's what first comes to mind.

Oops. I lied.

Actually, the first thought that came to my mind was, "Need any decals?" Ha!! :cool_2: :big_grin:

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No intention to highjack your post. Just having fun.

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However every other "word" was "Goddamsebielians".


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Progress of the day.

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A run together expression of unhappiness with having to be around civilians.... He liked to hide out in his engine room, no one ever came down there, it was extremely clean and orderly!


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The small vessel crews often took great pride in "their" spaces. I was Engineering Officer on the 112 foot long minesweeper USS Cape MSI-2. In many ways it was McHale's Navy! My crew - on their own - kept the engine rooms (propulsion and minesweeping generator) spotless. You could eat off of the varnished and polished wooden deck/bilge planks. All the brass was polished, and on a minesweeper, where there were no ferrous metals, there was a lot of brass! Piping was properly color coded and labeled, wiring was neatly laced and bits of fancy work (small stuff - cordage) were here and there in appropriate places.

At first I was treated as a visitor to their engine rooms. But when they learned my dad was a mechanic and I had grown up in a garage, and I could take the engines apart and put them back together myself, we developed a good working relationship.

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