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Seems a bit too cheap to me.

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Apparently they have just started to chop down the trees in the New forest to lay the first keel.

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[quote="Jabberwock"]Apparently they have just started to chop down the trees in the New forest to lay the first keel.

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This would make sense, considering the UK is a part of the Five Power Defence Arrangements alliance (FPDA) that also includes fellow Commonwealth member nations Australia, New Zealand, Malaysia and Singapore.

Timmy C, if you are reading this, have you ever wondered why Canada hasn't joined FPDA yet, considering we send a frigate to show the flag throughout Southeast Asia every year? Our historical ties to the Commonwealth should be reason enough, aside from Canada's trade links with many nations in the region.

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The information regarding plans for the Type 31 frigate comes to light in a speech by Admiral Sir Philip Jones, First Sea Lord and Chief of Naval Staff, delivered at DSEI 2017.

The following is an excerpt of the speech.

“Meanwhile, the Type 26 frigate is a genuine contender for both the Australian and New Zealand future frigate programmes and the Type 31e could meet the requirements of other smaller regional navies.

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This is pure fantasy! The article refers to a "growing navy". The opposite is true. The RN has shrunk and shrunk over the past decade to the point now that it cannot provide enough engineering staff for its ships and there is a general manpower shortage.

The Type 26 is late and the Type 31 is a last minute replacement for the more capable frigates and is likely to turn out to be an OPV on steroids rather than a true frigate.

Even before Brexit is attained there is a no money in the budget for public services (including defence) and I see no pot of gold on the horizon.

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Admiral John Byng wrote:
Even before Brexit is attained there is a no money in the budget for public services (including defence) and I see no pot of gold on the horizon.


Do you see Brexit as part of the reason behind the budget shortfall? I seem to recall your MoD been having budget troubles and making drastic cuts for the last decade.

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Haijun watcher wrote:
Admiral John Byng wrote:
Even before Brexit is attained there is a no money in the budget for public services (including defence) and I see no pot of gold on the horizon.


Do you see Brexit as part of the reason behind the budget shortfall? I seem to recall your MoD been having budget troubles and making drastic cuts for the last decade.


No, that is why I said even before Brexit. It is not clear what effect Brexit will have on the MoD budget but it is very unlikely to make more money available than now. Many problems in the MoD go a long way back but the recent trouble is because of a huge deficit they incurred. It is a very poorly run department and all governments for the past three decades at least, are to blame for allowing it to go on.

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BAE Systems teams with Cammell Laird for UK Type 31 frigate build

Cammell Laird and BAE Systems announced an agreement to collaborate on the construction of Royal Navy’s future Type 31 frigates.

Commercial shipbuilder Cammell Laird would act as prime contractor while BAE Systems would be supplying its warship design and combat systems expertise.

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