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Haijun watcher
PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:02 am 
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Hmm...will this mean we may finally see the Russians conducting carrier-based air strikes against ISIS as well?

Got to love how the Daily Mail reporters called this carrier a "battleship" in the article below :heh:

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Russia to send its largest warship to Syria as Putin prepares final push to destroy ISIS

Admiral Kuzetnov battleship is equipped with fighter helicopters and jets
Aircraft carrier will be based close to Syria so troops can attack and return
Move comes in the wake of attacks on the weekend in Baghdad and Dhaka
The 305m ship will lead Russia's Navy presence in the Mediterranean Sea

By Gareth Davies For Mailonline

Published: 10:29 GMT, 4 July 2016 | Updated: 12:56 GMT, 4 July 2016

VLADIMIR Putin is preparing to send Russia's biggest battleship to Syria to crush ISIS at source.

The Admiral Kuzetnov is poised for dispatch in the autumn equipped with jet fighters and armoured helicopters ready to fight the terrorist group.

The move comes after the attacks on Bangladesh, where 20 hostages were hacked to death in a Dhaka restaurant, and Baghdad where 125 people were killed in a car bomb in the Iraqi capital.

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Russia’s aircraft carrier group is ready to launch strike on Aleppo in the next 24 hours
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By David Cenciotti
Russia’s MOD has just announced that Kuznetsov aircraft carrier group prepares to strike Daesh targets in the province of Aleppo. Here’s from where.

The only Russian Navy aircraft carrier has eventually arrived in the eastern Mediterranean Sea from where, along with the rest of its battle group, it prepares to launch air strikes on Syria.

Interestingly, the first raids are being announced beforehand.

Indeed, according to the State-run Sputnik News, Russia’s MoD told Gazeta.ru that the Adm. Kuznetsov group is going to attack “terrorists in the province of Aleppo in the next 24 hours. The attack, which will likely engage Kalibr cruise missiles, will target militants outside of Aleppo, and not the residential areas.”

The naval group, includes among the others the Pyotr Veliky missile cruiser, the Severomorsk and Kulakov anti-submarine destroyers, and the Adm. Grigorovich Kalibr-armed frigate (believed the be the one that will be involved in the cruise missile launch). Reportedly, three submarines armed with cruise missiles (two Akula-class submarines and a diesel-powered Kilo-class sub) have joined the strike group in the deployment to the eastern Mediterranean Sea.

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An indication of what would happen if one of Taiwan's Dutch-made subs did the same to Kunznetsov's sister ship Liaoning in Chinese service?

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Russian warships drive away Dutch submarine tailing fleet in Mediterranean

‘Clumsy’ attempts to manoeuvre close to squadron that is on mission to Syria could have resulted in accident, says Russian defence ministry spokesman

The Dutch submarine was spotted 20km away from the Russian aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov, pictured, and its escorting ships. Photograph: Dover Marina.com/EPA

Associated Press in Moscow

Wednesday 9 November 2016 18.51 GMT
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Russian warships in the eastern Mediterranean Sea drove away a Dutch submarine shadowing the squadron, the Russian military has said.

Russian defence ministry spokesman Maj Gen Igor Konashenkov said two navy destroyers spotted the Walrus-class submarine on Wednesday while it was 20km (11 nautical miles) away from the Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier and its escorting ships.

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One of the Kuznetsov's Mig 29s has crashed after take off:

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/mig ... spartanntp

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The Admiral Kusnetzov is long overdue a major refit which is scheduled for the first quarter of 2017.

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Now an SU33 has ended up in the water after an arrestor cable snapped:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... Syria.html

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I heard that the Mig-29K and Su-33 have been flown off to a land base in Syria and Kuznetsov is preparing to return to home. A rather dismal showing for the Russian navy. Loosing a Su-33 and Mig-29K in the drink in about a week. The Kuznetsov is a poor carrier mainly because of the lack of catapults. The ordinance load is limited to what the Su-33 and Mig-29K can jump off the ski jump with.

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So much for the debut of Putin's naval "Top Guns"...

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Russian Aircraft Carrier Is Called Back as Part of Syrian Drawdown
By ANDREW E. KRAMERJAN. 6, 2017

MOSCOW — Russia has ordered its only aircraft carrier to return home, part of a general drawdown of forces involved in the Syria conflict, a senior general announced on Friday.

The carrier, the Admiral Kuznetsov, was sent to the eastern Mediterranean in the fall to mount airstrikes and other missions in support of forces loyal to President Bashar al-Assad of Syria. But the voyage became more of a show of force than an actual extension of it.

The trip was the first combat mission for the Soviet-era ship, and it apparently was used to work out some teething problems for Russian naval aviation, which has never been a primary focus of the country’s military.

The black-smoke-spewing Admiral Kuznetsov has an air wing of just 15 planes, much smaller than Western fleet carriers, which have about 60, and it experienced a number of problems on the voyage.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:03 pm 
Not much of a withdrawal. I presume it would go to the Black Sea.
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maybe & maybe not to black sea as the turks have a rule about no aircraft carriers going thru the straits from the med to the black sea & vice versa so it depends on how cozy turkey wants to be with Russia.


That is why Kuznetsov was fitted with anti-ship missiles. The Russians called it some sort of cruiser to get around the restriction on aircraft carriers (I think that was one reason all Soviet carriers had missile armaments). Anyway, I am sure Erdoğan will make no protest these days.

Kuznetsov will be heading for one of the United Shipbuilding Corporation's yards for an extensive refit.

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Not entirely. They have the anti-ship missiles because that's/was part of their doctrine. Aircraft were only there as an extended air cover, not in the anti-ship role. They never believed in aircraft as an anti-ship means and probably with good reason. Their longer range missiles were way too big and heavy to be carried by any ship launched aircraft.
The anti-ship missiles their aircraft are armed with now are actually much smaller and much less potent than the ship carried ones. Their shorter range would also bring the aircraft too close to any decently armed target to be effective but it would still do against most of the world's navies.

The designation is aircraft carrying cruiser to circumvent the rules on aircraft carriers passing the Bosporus. They were more or less obliged to do so, since all Soviet aircraft carriers were built in Ukraine due to lack of large facilities in Russia.
With only an anti-aircraft armament they'd still get away with that designation.
I doubt she'll be heading to Ukraine. As far as I remember the yard she was built in is still in Ukrainian hands?! Pretty sure Ukraine doesn't want to help them fix it...

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There are some Russian shipyards in the Black sea and Occupied Crimea but it seems none belong to USC so you are right she will be heading North or to the Far East.

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