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There goes our air defense capability. The SM2s will probably be landed like what happened with her sisters. The CSC program needs to be ACCELERATED ASAP!!!!

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We haven't had area air defence for a few years already - Athabaskan lost her missile guidance radars quite some time ago.

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De quoi s'agit-il?

As Canada's last AAW destroyer retires, this means the Halifax class frigates will hold the torch until the CSCs come online over the next decade.

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The original 5" guns of the Iroquois class are still in service - on the Dutch frigates of the De Zeven Provinciën class.

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DavidP

I believe Maxim is right, I also heard that too, years ago.

I saw some of the paying off ceremony sail past yesterday. I was too late arriving at my viewing and photographing wharf but from a distance I could see that it came very close to this wharf but missed the photographs. It then did a couple loops in Bedford Basin (well known as a convoy collection point in WWII).

Later, I noticed from the AIS that it was coming back up the harbour and got my camera and went to a window (where I should have gone in the first place!) and photographed what was the better sail past. It was going 8.4 knots (from the AIS but not particularly fast but it looked impressive given the narrow confines of the harbour) and did a 180 degree turn well within the width of the harbour with a obvious list (which the tribals have a reputation).

Sadly there was no paying off pennant so there was nothing distinctive to distinguish the paying off photos from any other harbour photos of the ship. I was told at the wharf, where there was a number of former crew members, that the last RCN ship paid off did not stream one either.

George

The second hand 127/54 Oto Melara were cheaper They were for sure refurnished before mounting them on the De Zeven Provinciën class. See e.g. The Naval Institute Guide to Combat Fleets of the World. It is also mentioned in the Dutch Wikipedia article:

https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Zeven_Provinci%C3%ABnklasse_(fregat)

The last sentence means that the guns became available because of the rebuilt of the Iroquois class. The English Wikipedia article is not very detailed.

If you consider something like that unlikely: also the earlier Tromp class air defence frigates had old 120 mm guns from the destroyer Gelderland. The re-usage of guns is a common praxis for many navies. Does not have e.g. the Canadian Navy still has some 40 mm Bofors from World War Two still in service? For sure on new mountings?

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Re-using guns and other equipment is quite common for many Navies. During a port visit, the sailors on Tromp confirmed the gun was from Iroqouis.
The guns on the Canadian Kingston class are reused from our old frigates and destroyers and even the carrier Bonaventure.

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Darren (Admiral Hawk)
In the not so tropical climate of the Great White North.

Darren
Even those 40mm reached the end of their extended lives! I noticed they were not mounted on the Kingston class ships even when deployed and asked when I was on board one last summer. I was told that they were getting too expensive to maintain so were removed. These 40mm also helped protect Canadian airfields in Europe.
Best Wishes
George

Goodbye, HMCS Athabaskan!

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