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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:26 am 
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I will add some more details about this set.

Box label
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292 Turned brass parts
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19 Resin parts including 24in searchlight(HMS type not USN).
The searchlight glass is real glass material.
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Dry transfer for Hull draft marks.
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Wooden deck realized for 1905 version not Museum version.
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11 Photo etching Frets
The first is rails
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Second is Jack stays near the Torpedo nets.
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Bridge decks
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Main gun Turret and others.
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Main Derrick
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Sky lights and hatches and Deck decorations.
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Funnel and boat decks.
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Boats and davits.
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Decorations for hull
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Port holes and guns.
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One piece torpedo net
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For more please visit
http://pontosmodel.com/html/23008f1.html

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Keumho Kim

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 7:16 pm 
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This looks like a very impressive set. Now if it would only be "physically" available, that would be nice.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:08 pm 
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The First shipping might be sold out.
Please ask to your local hobby shop or dealer place reorder.
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I'm on just about every notification list and no one has gotten received a shipment after early this month. How often do you ship them out?


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 12:20 am 
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Shipping depends on ordering.
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We had this set and it sold out within 24hrs of arriving.

We will be reordering Pontos Models in January to coincide with the release of Hood.

Japanese subjects are generally slow sellers in the UK so we don't plan to keep a lot of Mikasas in stock as most stuff other than British ships just sits there a long time.

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Tobori wrote:
I'm on just about every notification list and no one has gotten received a shipment after early this month. How often do you ship them out?


There are two sets out on eBay now.

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masch3 wrote:
Tobori wrote:
I'm on just about every notification list and no one has gotten received a shipment after early this month. How often do you ship them out?


There are two sets out on eBay now.

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What eBay are you on? I'm in the US and there is not such listing.


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Tobori wrote:
What eBay are you on? I'm in the US and there is not such listing.


They seem to be gone now.

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Hi Kim,
do you plan to release a new or updated set for the new Hobby Boss kit?
In the existing set #23008F1 there is not enough parts for the building of the Mikasa model 1902-1904 year :scratch:

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I'm in the process of building the 1/200 Mikasa with the Pontos set. The only other Pontos set I had purchased was one for the 1/200 Bismarck. At the time I complained often about the Pontos mistakes to their kit, with wrong number and bad instructions, and here I am again, running into the same problems with this Mikasa kit. Some wrong number, some missing or different parts, but most of all very sparse documentation.
I'm sure as a designer you can build these things without even looking at the instruction, but for some of us, it's almost impossible to decipher what we're supposed to do with so many parts and so little reference to them. The pictures included with the "instructions" are so incredibly cropped that sometimes it's impossible to figure out what part of the kit you're looking at. Sometimes there are instructions that include multiple parts but don't indicate or show how they are supposed to be put together or if they are optional. It's very frustrating and for the cost of these kits it's just not right.
If Pontos is trying to save money by not printing more pictures or diagrams, at least make some available online. You can only find the exact same printed instructions online. It sure would be nice if someone would shoot many more pictures of the finished model, with lots of detail, to help those of us that are not familiar with specific ships. I don't think it would be too expensive to just upload some pics on their website rather than print them. Gone are the days of rolls of film. Come on Pontos. The least you can do is shoot more pictures.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:05 am 
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Pontos has the drawings in their website. I have often printed them in A3 format which makes them easier to read. One can also open them to the screen and zoom in. Naturally any errors in the drawings are still there but at least it is easier to figure out what goes where.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:17 am 
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JariL wrote:
Pontos has the drawings in their website. I have often printed them in A3 format which makes them easier to read. One can also open them to the screen and zoom in. Naturally any errors in the drawings are still there but at least it is easier to figure out what goes where.

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Thanks Jari,
I mentioned exactly that on my post. They are THE SAME DRAWINGS. They are easier to see and I do that a lot, but again, their pictures are incredibly tightly cropped to save paper/size and you have to figure out what you're looking at. I wish they would just shoot more pics.


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Just as an example of the things I keep running into, this is the latest.
The 3 inch gun calls for part BRASS 06D, circled in red.
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Yet on the part's diagram, not only does BRASS 06D not look at all like it does on the parts list, it's not even included in the kit, including the rest of the parts A, B C and E.
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Fortunately, the gun parts are practicably invisible once installed in the kit. Only the shield and barrel are visible, so the base is not, but it's inexcusable that these things keep popping up. Pontos needs to improve their documentation and contents.. I love their sets. Great quality and lots of material, but I really hate running into stuff like this.


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For tonight little surprise, I found this problem.
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I have placed arrows to show the parts that are called for. They are parts 467 and 468.

Now here is the fret where those parts are attached. I have circled them for clarity:
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The pictures provided by Pontos online are low res, so it's hard to see the number, but number 468 is the one with the little holes. Notice that on the instructions there are 3 holes in part 468, but the part supplied only has 2, and the correct part is nowhere to be found on the fret. No big deal if it was just the number of holes, but the part is totally different size and will not fit on the model due to where the deck and other parts are located. I might have to use the kit part, which sucks because as you can see, I am leaving all the brass unpainted, and those 2 parts will have to be painted.
I wonder what tomorrow will bring....


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Dang Pontos, I wish you would pay as much attention to your docs as you do to your PE. Here are these parts which are obviously related to the life rings:
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NOWHERE on your instructions do I see any mention of where they are used. There is a small picture of what I assume is an "either or" choice???:
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After scouring the pictures, I see a tiny little image of where it goes with nothing else.:
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I know these sets are for "experts" but how hard can it be to just point it out a little bit? Why not take a little more time to perfect one PE set before rushing on to the next set, only to leave it full of omissions too?
Makes me wonder how many parts are going to be left on the frets that I'll have no idea whatsoever what to do with them. Not something I look forward to.


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Today I found 1 error and one question.
The question is, what part number is 5xx? I don't have enough covers that are similar to what I assume they are pointing at. They must have forgotten to actually include said part:
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The error is here:
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Notice how 2 completely different parts have the exact same part number. Glad I can read minds!


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:20 am 
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Tonight I found yet more errors and wrong part counts, but in view of the fact that Pontos has not commented, and for that matter anyone else, I'm done keeping track.
Bye bye.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:35 am 
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Hi Tobori
Please don't stop posting...........l am sure l speak for many people in that we are very grateful for all your posts on here.
After the way we were all treated after the 1/200 Bismark fiasco when we literally rejigged/updated and corrected the instruction sheets for them - no thankyou's and they even resisted using the updated sheets initially on future sets to be sold.
It's a wonder that anybody bought anything under the Pontos label after that treatment.
Please continue to post - light hightedly l look for your updates!
Very best regards
Alan from UK


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Hi Alan!
How have you been?
Yep, I remember the Bismarck fiasco. I really think Pontos counts on making their money the minute something new is released, errors and all. Then rather than fix things, they move on to the next project and make a whole load of cash at the start. Rinse, repeat.
Since you're listening, I will keep posting.
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