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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:35 pm 
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New products for February-March

1:350 scale main turrets for battleship Richelieu
Resin and PE with brass guns, set of two for the Trumpeter kit

http://www.larsenal.com/tourelles-princ ... 2x22619025

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1:350 scale secondary turrets for battleship Richelieu
Resin and PE with brass guns, set of three for the Trumpeter kit

http://www.larsenal.com/tourelles-secon ... 2x21864572

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1:350 Loire 130 reconnaissance floatplane
Resin and PE, set of two

http://www.larsenal.com/loire-130-1-350-x2-c2x22618635

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1:350 German tank Tiger I (Panzerkampf Wagen VI)

Resin, set of five
http://www.larsenal.com/char-tigre-i-pa ... 2x22619287

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1:48 Type F4 MATRA rocket pod (LRF4)
Resin, set of two
suitable for Mirage F1, Jaguar, Mirage 2000, Mirage III

http://www.larsenal.com/matra-lance-roq ... 2x22610610

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1:48 Type F1 MATRA rocket pod (LR F1)
Resin, set of four
Suitable for Mirage F1 and Jaguar

http://www.larsenal.com/matra-lance-roq ... 2x22610620

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Just got my Richelieu main turrets,my review is easy...WOW!!!!

Thank you L'Arsenal ,great job :woo_hoo:

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Hello!
Any news about Richelieu set?


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Any news about the 1/144 Snowberry upgrade set?? :wave_1:


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Hello !
AFAIK, both (Richelieu & Snowberry) are in the production line. Maybe later this Spring. I'll ask in about ten day when I meet Mélaine.
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bgire wrote:
Hello !
AFAIK, both (Richelieu & Snowberry) are in the production line. Maybe later this Spring. I'll ask in about ten day when I meet Mélaine.
_Bruno

Can we get a little spoiler alert? :cool_2:
For 1/144 Flower class, will there be an "all around" multimedia set (PE, resin, ...), or just separate "bits and pieces"?

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Awesome, that backdated 1940 Richelieu set is pretty much my big "can't wait for it to come out" ship modelling purchase on the horizon!


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bgire wrote:
Hello !
AFAIK, both (Richelieu & Snowberry) are in the production line. Maybe later this Spring. I'll ask in about ten day when I meet Mélaine.
_Bruno

Hello Bruno!
Any news about Richelieu set from Mélaine?


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litvin70 wrote:
Hello Bruno!
Any news about Richelieu set from Mélaine?


Yesterday (Thursday) I saw bags of freshly cast parts for this set in l'Arsenal 2.0 production workshop, so I'm confident this is well advanced in production.

mopy wrote:
Can we get a little spoiler alert? :cool_2:
For 1/144 Flower class, will there be an "all around" multimedia set (PE, resin, ...), or just separate "bits and pieces"?


For your pleasure, some CGI of Flower parts under production (many more in the queue). ETA by next Summer:

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I think perhaps you mean this summer (2017) rather than next summer (2018)?
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mike mccabe wrote:
Bruno
I think perhaps you mean this summer (2017) rather than next summer (2018)?
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Yes Mike: the Summer of 2017. For both sets (Richelieu and Flower) the resin parts are now in production (saw last week a bag of the Flower's boats which are jewels). Some delay with the photo etching company which encountered internal trouble lately, now solved. The assembly instruction sheets should be ready by the end of May.
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bgire wrote:
mike mccabe wrote:
Bruno
I think perhaps you mean this summer (2017) rather than next summer (2018)?
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Yes Mike: the Summer of 2017. For both sets (Richelieu and Flower) the resin parts are now in production (saw last week a bag of the Flower's boats which are jewels). Some delay with the photo etching company which encountered internal trouble lately, now solved. The assembly instruction sheets should be ready by the end of May.
_Bruno

Thanks for the details.
I presume the PE frets will be as comprehensive as Eduard ones.


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Btw, Bruno.

Are you aware of any plans from L'Arsenal for a detail set to detail up Revell's 1/144 LSM?
I haven't seen any AM producers making a specific set for it.

All the best.
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Btw, Bruno.

Are you aware of any plans from L'Arsenal for a detail set to detail up Revell's 1/144 LSM?
I haven't seen any AM producers making a specific set for it.

All the best.
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Hello Andrej,
Not yet. We're now producing a 1:144 set for the Revell Flower corvette. After this is done we'll study the LSM, so maybe...
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Thanks.

Will be taking a close watch for any news. :wave_1:


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bgire wrote:
mike mccabe wrote:
Bruno
I think perhaps you mean this summer (2017) rather than next summer (2018)?
Mike

Yes Mike: the Summer of 2017. For both sets (Richelieu and Flower) the resin parts are now in production (saw last week a bag of the Flower's boats which are jewels). Some delay with the photo etching company which encountered internal trouble lately, now solved. The assembly instruction sheets should be ready by the end of May.
_Bruno

Hello Bruno!
When we can see Richelieu set on your site?


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litvin70 wrote:
Hello Bruno!
When we can see Richelieu set on your site?


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Robert Apfelzweig claims in Steelnavy Forum http://members.boardhost.com/Warship/msg/1510939667.html, that the new L'Arsenal resin turrets are way under scaled,even smaller than the kit's turrets.
I bought them since April this year,but never checked between the original model turrets, because long story short, my kit is in another place, and can't verify it . Can You confirm this Bruno, please .


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Hello Miguel,

No, L'Arsenal Richelieu turrets aren't "way underscale". They're designed to BOTH fit the Trumpeter kit barbette which is wrong in size AND to correct the wrong shape to be visually accurate.

I asked both l'Arsenal and Nicolas Dupont, the turrets designer.
These turrets have been designed specifically for the Trumpeter kit. On this kit turrets had wrong shape AND dimensions, but resizing them to accurate 1:350 would have implied to completely rebuilding both barbettes, the superstructure behind #2 turret and so on.
So we had to make a compromise by doing the right shape of the angled facets and other details to be fitted on a WRONG barbette, so the SLIGHT difference in size.
BTW, this kit is widely known as plagued for bad shapes and dimensions all around, so if you wants to avoid 100% scratch building you'll have to make compromise.
Nicolas told me today they've been debates between him and Jacques Druel (l'Arsenal founder and former owner) when starting the project and it quickly became obvious a compromise had to be made.

Here is Nicolas model of Richelieu (as in 1952) which shows l'Arsenal's turrets in place:

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And here is Nicolas Richelieu as in Dakar in 1941 (in progress) with the same resin turrets:

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If these turrets had been at 1:400 scale as Robert suggested: their circular base (the top of barbette) would have measured 33mm in diameter instead of 37.7 mm on the resin part and would have left a 4.7mm gap in diameter to fit in on the barbette, which, by evidence, is not the case.

This raises a concern which should be always reminded: EVERY detail set maker (particularly with PE) has to somewhat alter scaled real dimensions of railings, fittings, etc. to cope with the kit on which the part will be fitted, should the kit being accurate or not.
The alternative is to supply corrected parts for everything... so a complete new kit.

Makers simply add on their box "designed for the Tamytrumpgawa kit", as l'Arsenal did.
One example: you can find super detail sets by the same maker under two references: one for Hasegawa, one for Tamiya and aimed at the SAME ship (I've Yukikaze in mind, also many 1:700 IJN ships )...

Of course you may want "totally" accurate building (I belong to this kind of rivet-counter, believe me, so is Nicolas): this will be at the cost of scratching soooo much of the ship that starting form a kit shouldn't be considered very efficient.
And we should keep in mind many of our fellow modelers might not want to go so far in rebuilding their kit, just want to have the best compromise between accurate dimensions and visual accuracy.
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Understood ,and THANK YOU VERY MUCH,for that fine explanation Bruno, I was a bit disappointed earlier,but now after your post ,I'm agree with L'Arsenal decision(Nicolas) to make them in that way, so can be used in that troublesome Trumpeter kit without going into deep scratchbuilding process, the turrets are beautiful and very well cast.
Ok ,let's enjoy them.

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