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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:06 pm 
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Do you still did not got the point? :big_grin: Everyone knows that there are more kits available in 1/350 than in 1/200 and that there are more kits available in 1/700 than in 1/350. But you appear not to be able to consider the situation of modellers in other scales ;)

But if you like that game:

1/350 kits by Trumpeter, which are not available in plastic in 1/700:

Type 051C destroyer
Admiral Chabanenko (Udaloy II)
destroyer Taizhou
Type 23 frigate Kent
Type 23 frigate Montrose
Type 23 frigate Westminster
Type 23 frigate Monmouth
Type 071 landing dock
HMS Belfast 1942
HMS Roberts
Tsesarevich 1917
USS New York (?, perhaps an kit by Blue Ridge?)

For sure there are more kits available in 1/700, but there are a lot of cases, where there are no plastic kits in 1/700 available but in 1/350.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:15 pm 
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So, Christian M,

There are relatively very few WW2 USN subjects NOT available in 1/350th injection.

For the RN ;

Nelson, Rodney, the 5 R's, 2 x QEs, Renown

ALL the aircraft Carriers

ALL the Cruisers, except Belfast

ALL the destroyers, except Tribals

ALL the escorts, except the Flowers.

I think my comment was appropriate.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:08 pm 
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Do you still did not got the point? :big_grin: Everyone knows that there are more kits available in 1/350 than in 1/200 and that there are more kits available in 1/700 than in 1/350. But you appear not to be able to consider the situation of modellers in other scales ;)
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I do and can consider Maxim ... for sure! Each scal has it's lack of missing ships, sure, but the core here was and still is that Trumpeter announce a most wanted 1/350 ship in 1/200. As lucky it is for 1/200 builders and I enjoy their luck and happiness, it is nearly impudent and ignorant of Trumpeter not to make in 1/350!

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So, Christian M,

There are relatively very few WW2 USN subjects NOT available in 1/350th injection.

For the RN ;

Nelson, Rodney, the 5 R's, 2 x QEs, Renown

ALL the aircraft Carriers

ALL the Cruisers, except Belfast

ALL the destroyers, except Tribals

ALL the escorts, except the Flowers.

I think my comment was appropriate.


Isn't this list alone not long enough to make my answer appropriate with view on what of them is available in 1/700 but not in 1/350 (plastic or resin)? ;-)

However, I will not hijack this thread here for this "game", so I will end it here better before "forum government" makes a reasoned grump :-)

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:45 pm 
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It is hard for me to imagine how 1/700 scale modellers feel because in my modelling life which I started modelling around 2000 the best kits available were all 1/350 scale. At that time and onwards it was 1/350. Growing up as a child in the 80's and 90's the toy kits available that got me interested were the random scale 1/720 and 1/570 Revell kits of the Bismarck, Titanic, Missouri and New Jersey and even the Ark Royal. Even as a child it was disappointing building so called famous ships and not even having the toy models at the same scale to compare size difference.

I can easily symphonise with the 1/700 builders.

Perhaps a comparative list of ships available in both major scales if someone can do it would help us all understand.

As a 1/350 builder there are many ships I want in my preferred scale. I would love a Nelson/Rodney kit, a HMS Ark Royal kit, and even the modern RN type 42 Destroyers.

A few years back Dragon used to have some excellent US kits of their Spruance, Ticonderoga class ships and these were useful to make into any ships I had visited or served during exercises they did with the RAN when I was in our Navy. There is always that thrill of recreating the ships you have served on and served with in training operations.


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Sutho, the 1/350 Dragon modern DD/CGs are back - you can preorder them from Freetime.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 4:59 am 
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......... Isn't this list alone not long enough to make my answer appropriate with view on what of them is available in 1/700 but not in 1/350 (plastic or resin)? ;-) ...........



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The 1/700th list is hardly any better, especially considering the quality of some of the offerings.

So your "view" is hardly appropriate in either scale.


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Aoshima's 1/700 IJN Kamikawa Maru is out now, though, on backorder at HLJ.


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The 1/700th list is hardly any better, especially considering the quality of some of the offerings.

So your "view" is hardly appropriate in either scale.


Come, stop it please, because point of quality is depending to both at least.
Point was and is that HMS Nelson is since ages most wanted ship in 1/350 and comes now in 1/200 only or for the first in 1/200 only. This "now the 1/350 buildes feel like we 1/700 feel" was reason why I posted, because this is rediculous. Did anyone ever asked or thought about how 1/350 builders feel when something is as so many times happened, only announced in 1/700? :roll:
I never denied that at both sides are this or that ship missing, but existing at other scale. Also I never wanted and did accuse the 1/700 or 1/200 builders, for sure not! But I blame manufactures about their policies to realse what in what scales ... because this is rediculous.
In 1/350 we have from Trumpeter HMS Queen Elizabeth and Warspite ... in 1/700 we have Queen Elizabeth + Warspite in 1942 and 1915 configuration + Barham. So why not Warpsite in 1915 + Barham in 1/350 too? This is my point of anger for example! ;-)

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 6:06 pm 
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Christian M. wrote:
Did anyone ever asked or thought about how 1/350 builders feel when something is as so many times happened, only announced in 1/700?

You repeat that so often that it is hardly possible not to notice that ;)

Does someone knows anything about these announcements by Seal Models (Foresight/Interallied):

Japanese armoured cruiser Nisshin (1/700)
British icebreaker Endurance (1/700)

The first can be found on Foresight's website, that later I have on pre-order at HobbyLink Japan for years...

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It only makes sense that the manufacturers would choose the most popular subjects for their kits in any scale.
I enjoy building in 1/350 and even larger scales, but find it impractical to try to build in scales smaller than 1/600.

1/600 is a great scale to work in, but is mostly limited to old Airfix kits.

I would think a popular subject in ether 1/700 or 1/350 would inspire the same model in the other scale.

An analogous situation exists in the model railroad hobby. HO scale has the biggest following, and therefore the widest range of kits and equipment. But I always check out new offerings in HO although I model in N scale. I've noticed the most popular subjects in HO scale are often offered later in N scale.

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I just want to read about the new releases......


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:31 am 
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Guest wrote:
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So, Christian M,

There are relatively very few WW2 USN subjects NOT available in 1/350th injection.

For the RN ;

Nelson, Rodney, the 5 R's, 2 x QEs, Renown

ALL the aircraft Carriers

ALL the Cruisers, except Belfast

ALL the destroyers, except Tribals

ALL the escorts, except the Flowers.

I think my comment was appropriate.




I must say I am stunned to see the Nelson coming to large scale injection plastic, not in 1/350 but in 1/200. Happy, but stunned. I completely agree with what guest has written above, all sorts of minor vessels have been made in 1/350; however there is a complete lack of some very famous WW2 British vessels. Having pre-ordered the 1/700 Aoshima Ark Royal in a fit of joy when it was announced, I can't but help think what it would be like to have Exeter, York, Illustrious, the Light Fleets, Barham, Vanguard, Hermes, Eagle, the Ark, the R's, Renown, Ajax, the rest of Town class, Colony Class, Electra, Kelly, the Barents sea O Class, Vampire, Courageous, Glorious and Furious, the Counties including Australia and Canberra, and the modified Leanders as used by RAN available in 1/350 injected plastic. There's a gap in the market...

That's even before we consider the British Dreadnoughts and pre-dreadnoughts: Zvesda makes some great little kits of Russian pre-dreadnoughts and armoured cruisers.

Otherwise, I'm grinning and thinking about transferring accumulated dinghy repair and surfboard building skills to something the size of a 1/200 Nelson. Hope they get the hull right: she's very 'square' in sections amidships and fines out to the ends!


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Damn... more shocking than a 1/200 Nelson is the royal hissy fit that it's not 1/350. :big_eyes:

Just thought I'd remind everyone that nobody is entitled to ANY model kit, and nobody has to buy ANY model kit. The existence of the kit does not change the fact that there wasn't a 1/350 Rodney/Nelson before it was announced so you've lost nothing.

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I for one totally agree with the missing 1/350 RN issue. Also why Nelson instead of Rodney. Rodney would have been better to go with the Bismarck.
I would also like to see one of the missing early W2 Type 34 German Destroyers. Z1 to Z15 instead of another type 36. Then there is the German light cruisers Lutzow, Admiral Scheer.

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So, Christian M,

There are relatively very few WW2 USN subjects NOT available in 1/350th injection.

For the RN ;

Nelson, Rodney, the 5 R's, 2 x QEs, Renown

ALL the aircraft Carriers

ALL the Cruisers, except Belfast

ALL the destroyers, except Tribals

ALL the escorts, except the Flowers.

I think my comment was appropriate.




I must say I am stunned to see the Nelson coming to large scale injection plastic, not in 1/350 but in 1/200. Happy, but stunned. I completely agree with what guest has written above, all sorts of minor vessels have been made in 1/350; however there is a complete lack of some very famous WW2 British vessels. Having pre-ordered the 1/700 Aoshima Ark Royal in a fit of joy when it was announced, I can't but help think what it would be like to have Exeter, York, Illustrious, the Light Fleets, Barham, Vanguard, Hermes, Eagle, the Ark, the R's, Renown, Ajax, the rest of Town class, Colony Class, Electra, Kelly, the Barents sea O Class, Vampire, Courageous, Glorious and Furious, the Counties including Australia and Canberra, and the modified Leanders as used by RAN available in 1/350 injected plastic. There's a gap in the market...

That's even before we consider the British Dreadnoughts and pre-dreadnoughts: Zvesda makes some great little kits of Russian pre-dreadnoughts and armoured cruisers.

Otherwise, I'm grinning and thinking about transferring accumulated dinghy repair and surfboard building skills to something the size of a 1/200 Nelson. Hope they get the hull right: she's very 'square' in sections amidships and fines out to the ends!


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Ref the above comments by guest, Jack G and seacondor, and ANother:

My interests in Nelson are family, not to mention a particular interest in Op. Pedestal, which if the ships that were in that Operation were modelled would present the modeller with a more than interesting choice and range of kits.

Anyhow, we will have to wait and see.....it would be great to see the missing RN ships of WW2 appear as 1/350 models.

As for believing that we have a right for ANY models to be produced, I can't remember that being said. But when a particular model is produced, it would be entirely logical if that kit was accurate and well engineered.

'Nuff said,, I will go away and practice my patience.

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Pit Road's release in plastic of the IJN Munitions Ship Kashino has arrived in stores in Japan and is now shipping.

Unlike the original release (2005) in resin, the new Pit Road release in plastic is a full hull model, includes the Yamato's main and auxiliary armament turrets, and hatch covers.

Hobby Link Japan: http://www.hlj.com/product/PITW-160

Hobby Search Japan: http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10289522

And here's the original release in resin: http://www.hlj.com/product/pitspr-08/Nav


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 6:38 am 
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Good to see Kashino complete with Yamato turret. I made the resin one some years ago and it was supplied with barrels and mounts only.

Now all I want is for Pit Road to re-issue the supply ship Irako in either resin or injection moulding.

Anyone listening?!


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Zvezda 1/350 HMS Hood do not know the year though.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 1:47 pm 
Any hopes for the new year for an injection 1/700 royal oak/sovereign series now the b5 serie nears completion?

Kind regards on Christmas,

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Well the Trumpeter 1/700 HMS Malaya has put to sea. The first one has shown up on eBay from a UK seller.

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