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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:17 am 
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Long time no see sailors! :cool_1:

I was stuck when I am adding the final touch of the Admiral Graf Spee - the flag!

Can anyone identify the small black flag at the mast behind the front bridge? (Not the War ensign at the aft mast) Thank you so much for your help :thumbs_up_1:


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:34 am 
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Would not be an admiral's flag, so could it be a day shape vice a flag.


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Interestingly, from all the posted pics of Graf Spee in Montevideo. this seems to be the only pic where this flag is flying. She (he) is neither entering nor leaving harbour, as the anchor is down. Since this is a B/W photo, the flag's color could also be red, or any other dark color. In short, I have no idea either!
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PS; Maybe not a flag, but a device, or symbol, showing the ship is at anchor?


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:59 am 
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FRAMSailor wrote:
Would not be an admiral's flag, so could it be a day shape vice a flag.

If it was an Admiral's flag wouldn't it have a Maltese Cross on it? Anyway, there were no admirals, or vice-admirals, on board during, or after, the Platte Battle.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:40 am 
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drasticplastic wrote:
Interestingly, from all the posted pics of Graf Spee in Montevideo. this seems to be the only pic where this flag is flying. She (he) is neither entering nor leaving harbour, as the anchor is down. Since this is a B/W photo, the flag's color could also be red, or any other dark color. In short, I have no idea either!
:wave_1:

PS; Maybe not a flag, but a device, or symbol, showing the ship is at anchor?


Thanks, everyone! I didn't expect it would create an interesting topic! :big_grin:

I think I kind of find the solution myself. According to:
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https://www.kbismarck.com/flags.html,
the only solid colour signal flag was the yellow one, or the "Gustav" signal.

According to:
https://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/xf-sgerm.html#g,
it has a similar meaning with ICSF flag "Q", meaning "quarantine"

I think it may make sense as it has pick up a lot of sailors from the Allies' merchant ships.

However, I decided not to have this flag flying in my model because I did not make my model to look like its damaged state after the battle of the river plate. Strictly speaking, it should not fly the Kriegsmarine flag either but I just want it to be there as the flag makes it look more like "the bad Nazi ship"

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 12:09 pm 
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The "black" flag could be any color or design, but with a foreign ship coming into port your idea might be the best bet.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:20 pm 
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An interesting post, quarantine being the logical answer, yellow but a long shot that it could also be green, as listed used by German river pilots.
Also interesting, If orthocromatic film was used both colours would appear as seen in the image.


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It looks like a diamond day shape.


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