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 Post subject: Rigging 1/700 ships
PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:23 pm 
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Having built a few warships I have never rigged a model. So my question is there a standard way that navies used? Also how or what was the rigging secured too at the base? I've looked at some pics but I'm still unclear as to where I should fasten the rigging at the base.
Hope I've made my self clear.


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 Post subject: Re: Rigging 1/700 ships
PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:57 pm 
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Rigging was secured with eye-bolts and turnbuckles, but these details are far too small to depict in 1/700. To anchor the lower end of the rigging, I just bore a shallow hole in the deck with a sharp needle, dip the tip of my piece of stretched sprue (the rigging material) in CA, and, using fine tweezers, position the stretched sprue into the hole. Hold the length of rigging a few seconds at more or less the right angle until the CA sets. Snip the rigging to just slightly longer than needed and glue the upper end to the mast or yardarm. You'll have a sagging line but using heat (Jim Baumann's method) will tighten it up. It will take a few tries to perfect this technique, but it's worth it. You can add any necessary pullies, insulators, etc. with a tiny drop of white glue and paint it later. When using stretched sprue for rigging, antennas, etc. never use styrene glue to secure it as that kind of glue will melt through the very finely stretched sprue. :wave_1:


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 8:11 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Rigging 1/700 ships
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 8:21 am 
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hello Tan 63

Biggles is correct, that in 1/700 any depiction of eybolts or similar is likely to be way over-scale.

so a 'butt-join to the deck in small scales will be close enough

Signal halyards( which are in effect usually endless via clip-to-flags on the other hand were often secured to the railing with a clove hitch knot
again in 1/700 mere contact with the railing will be within scale

My rigging method was mentioned earlier--I use stretched sprue

Have a look here at the step-by-step

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=37536

Stretched sprue is about as thin and fine as you can get.

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http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/sh ... na_006.jpg

more here

http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html

do feel free to ask further questions -

specifically which ship are you building?

best wishes

JB

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 Post subject: Re: Rigging 1/700 ships
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 8:22 am 
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Thanks for the pic and may I say a lovely looking model.
I'm sat here now thinking what have I let myself in for,lol.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 8:50 am 
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Thanks Jim for the advice it was a great help.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:37 am 
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Thank you for posting up these pics and suggestions. I echo Tan63's concerns...what have I gotten myself into? I'm working on the 1/700 Italeri Lutzow and I think I'll go blind with all of the super small wires/lines to replicate!

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 Post subject: Re: Rigging 1/700 ships
PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:55 am 
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I'll throw in my two cents on this (as I have done before) Honestly , the "1/700" rigging suggested above is just too thick. Look at Jim's ship. The rigging is much finer. The rigging on your ship should not be visible from more than a couple of feet away. Otherwise it's just over scale. At the end of the day, work with whatever you are comfortable with and what your skill level (and eyesight) can cope with, but remember - when it comes to rigging, less is more.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:56 pm 
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I just got some Caenis UNI size 08 fly thread. Still suitably fine, but at least I can see it! :big_grin:


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:14 am 
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Hello ship-builders!! :wave_1:

I have been building ships for awhile ( and even before being a part of 'ModelWarships' ), but I would like to share a YT link on a "How To..." on rigging ships!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6e-A1tiIOo

This video, I hope, will be Helpful for those who are wondering about the different types of rigging lines for ships. I used two (2) different brands... Mig rigging and ModelKasten, both have been useful in my (at the time of this post) three (3) ships that I have used these products.

I show how to attach lines to make signal flag lines through narration and stills and with the help of my daughter using video.

Let me know what you think. :thumbs_up_1:

M. Mares


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