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Thanks Mike.

I love the clean look of that era before they started hanging all sorts of elint gear on it

When Corsair Armada released their Resin A-4 Scooters some years ago, i knew i had to put some on my Enterprise, 'cause til then (and up til today) i haven't seen one model carrier in 1/350 with Skyhawks on its deck...
So i've chosen the year 1968, because i love the aircraft mix and markings of that time frame.

sgtryan13
Many thanks for the reply.At this time i would not have the nessasary skills to put lighting in the hanger deck.but i will attempt to fit a deck of some description.I bought some stryrene sheets and rods a while ago so will study some of the photos on here for some help[tried to get the book " Enterprise in detail and scale but cheapest i found was about£80=$120]as there are some amazing models.As i have already said i have just came back to the hobby and can see a big improvement from a year ago.I'm learning a lot form this site and from mistakes.I have started on the USS HANCOCK and am doing things with this one i would never even thought of a year ago like opening up the some of the roller shutters to expose some of the hanger deck[why could tamiya not have done this]and then painted the deck and bulkheads.Just one more question are there any decals to put on the bulkheads of hancock.thanks to all anthony

Guys,

For those of you building Enterprise in the 60s, I came across a Cruise Book for 66-67 by Josh Probst on picasa at the following link (which I hope works) https://picasaweb.google.com/baltimoreredskin. The book is about 400 pages in 200k - 500k size pics, once you click on the thumbnails. Beware the thumbnail page loads about 3,5MB of data so it may take a while.

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Shiprat

Hello!

Looking for drawings of the aircraft carrier USS Enterprise CVN-65
to create not very large model.
But I cannot find good information to create the model.

I beg and hope for your help with the drawings!

Well, i might be getting a little paranoic about detailing, since i'm looking for some references for the OLD CVAN-65 Uss Enterprise Hangar ceiling....

I'm planning on building my 1/720 and 1/400 CVAN-65 Enterprise with a hangar deck ceiling, so i want to make it right, mainly the lights position and the roof beam framing....
All the hangar decks i found are for the modern CVN-65, after the rebuilds.....

Or are all US Navy carriers hangar deck roof built the same way, with the same framing spacing and lights position????

If anyone could help me out on this one, i would be gratefully appreciated....

I imagine the framing would be the same (unless the ripped up and replaced the entire deck?), but the lighting might have changed.

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"Let the evidence guide the research. Do not have a preconceived agenda which will only distort the result."
-Barbara Tuchman

BCbilly

Check out this link. It's from a Czech model forum and the modeller is retrofitting the Enterprise with beehive island etc.

http://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=175&t=19617&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

Just wish we had a decent translation

Here's an early shot of the hangar from aft looking forward. I don't know the date. Note the "drop ceiling" tiles.


Here's a more recent photo again from aft looking forward. Tracy is correct that the framing is the same but the area between frames is now open. I don't know when the change occurred.

Indeed...
Well, i'll give it a try and see all those pages....
LOL



That was my fear, but thanks for the pics anyway....
Now i just love to know when they changed the ceiling...
And the distance of the lightning position in the ceiling between them.........

In 1/700th scale I would think that just scribing a grid pattern would be acceptable for the early overhead. I take it you are planning on lighting it and that's why you want the light pattern?

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Tracy White -Researcher@Large

"Let the evidence guide the research. Do not have a preconceived agenda which will only distort the result."
-Barbara Tuchman

The hangar roof had filler panels in it until the 1984 refit. During the 84 refit they were removed to change from incandescent lighting to flourescent. The girders that support the roof are in two configurations.

Forward of midship the girders are on 80 inch centers. One girder runs down the centerline of the ship. Then on either side of that one there are 4 more girders on 80 inch centers. Then there is a gap of one girder and the pattern continues after that for three more girders. In other words, where the fifth girder should be there is a gap. These specific girders run the full length of the hangar, that is until the hangar narrows at the front and rear.

The second pattern occurs just aft the midship weapons elevators. The pattern from the front continues but another row is added in between these girders, meaning that the girders are now on 40 inch centers. The "missing girder" gap on the port side continues all the way back to the JES bulkhead. The "missing girder" gap on the starboard side continues a little ways back, but the gap is filled with a girder just ahead of the number 3 elevator door opening.

All these girders run from front to back in a straight line parallel to the centerline of the ship except in one spot. Where the door for the number 3 elevator hangs from the hangar roof, the girders turn parallel to the hangar wall. There is a track the elevator door hangs from close to the wall and the girders supporting the roof turn and run parallel to it as they run into it. Contrary to popular belief the hangar is not rectangular, it actually has 12 facets. The forward and aft bulkheads are two and each side has 5 faces that taper in at the front and rear of the hangar with the middle one being parallel to the centerline of the ship.

The girder themselves are not I-beams, but upside down T-beams 9 inches tall and 6 inches wide made from 1/4" steel plate.

Geez, I love this forum! Where else can you find info like this? Thanks very much!

You're welcome. Tracy talked me into doing a drawing of the hangar since I work in CAD a lot. I worked on it a little last night, I will do some more tonight and try to post it tonight or tomorrow.

Indeed, that's my plan, with both 1/720 & 1/400 Revell kits....



Errrrrrrrr.....
I',ve lost it somewhere....
Got to read it line per line, so i can sort it out and convert it to metric dimensions..... LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Many thanks for your help, i'm really gratefull....



Eh, are you planing on doing the hangar roof also????
I'm also into CAD project, so if you want, i can give you a hand, but as you might have guessed, i haven't got to many references....

And the 1/350th Enterprise builders rejoiced

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"Let the evidence guide the research. Do not have a preconceived agenda which will only distort the result."
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The hangar roof drawing is done, I am doing another view of the hangar layout itself and will try to finish that tonight.

Okay, here it is. It is in 350th scale and shows the three main deck levels of the hangar as well as the underside of the gallery deck, which happens to be the roof of the hangar. It isn't exactly the highest quality, but I don't have a lot of time to dedicate to stuff I am not getting paid for these days.

Take it to FedEx Office (Kinko's) or whatever you have locally and they can print it for a couple dollars. Make sure and tell them to print it full size without scaling.

Link:
https://mega.nz/#!pxhlkbgD!vYxGRMvpseWg5naPu5w3FXu2NSrjc9OmH2ln1P2eWoQ

Outstanding! Thank you very much.

This is another wonderful example of the many people on this forum who give so freely of their time. It's what makes this such a great forum.

MANY THANKS!!!!

Now to pinpoint for the lightning i go.....