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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:25 am 
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Looks like this is a feature of all SCB-25/125 Islands. I have been able to find pictures of the preserved ones...Intrepid, Lexington and Hornet. On the others my pictures are too bad :-(

Yes indeed, it is a common feature for all modernized islands of the Essex class carriers.

Here are some underwater pictures of CV-34 among which you can see the feature.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/diverjoe/ ... 5304922335

You can see it also on this CV-18 picture:
http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/021830.jpg

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:14 pm 
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Hello guys

Couldn't resist today and to break into my Intrepid that I bought a good week ago...some glueing done like hangar deck, some sponsons on the hull and the supports for the angeled deck. Not much yet...
I have also started to look at Interpid pics in her SCB-125 apperance. I personally find the two colored flight deck as shown in the instructions a bit strange...I know it's authentic! Now I have this picture that shows an all dark gray deck, also the large (later) radom behind the island and what look to be an attack wing on deck. Does anybody know when and where that picture was taken? Next thing...the island and the nice markings on it that are not on the decal sheet. I saw a post that someone here makes them? I would be greatful for a tip or for the artist to send me a PM.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:06 am 
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Hello again

I think this picture shows the 1966 deployment since it was the only one with purely attack capacity on board. 1967 and 68 Intrepid also had a Crusader detachment on board...and in 1968 there were also no more Skyraiders involved. The kit's airwing is hence only fiting for the 1967 deployment.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:54 am 
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Navsource dates the photo above to May, 1967.

Sometime about 1968, Intrepid and some other Essex class ships had a boxy electronic countermeasures station added high up on the starboard side of the island. It shows up well in this photo. It's presence affects the path of much of the exterior cabling, piping and the numerals "11". Note the addition of a gantry-like truss fixed to its side.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:03 am 
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Thanks Steve...:-)

The kit island does not have that box...so it's a pre 68 Yankee Station. The 68 CVA cruise pics clearly already show the box...and also the harsh deck painting! I guuess some more research has to go into that kit!

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:47 pm 
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domi13 wrote:
anj4de wrote:
Looks like this is a feature of all SCB-25/125 Islands. I have been able to find pictures of the preserved ones...Intrepid, Lexington and Hornet. On the others my pictures are too bad :-(

Yes indeed, it is a common feature for all modernized islands of the Essex class carriers.

Here are some underwater pictures of CV-34 among which you can see the feature.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/diverjoe/ ... 5304922335

You can see it also on this CV-18 picture:
http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/021830.jpg

And, Happy New Year to all of you.

Regards,
domi13


Hello to France...

I have the plans for CV-18, what looks to be the origional drawings for her SCB-125 upgarde, and the island levels do not show that feature...yet the carrier and all others have it. Is it possible that a kit producer for once had a look at plans? Would be a novum...too bad they did not pay enough attention on the real thing! :-( The picture is just a cropped view...and shrunk to forum limits. The original is almost 30M large!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:00 am 
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anj4de,

Here is a close-up of the photo you posted:
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The item you've discussed (in the red box) is the ULQ-6 ECM enclosure & sensor framework (the sensors have all been removed). This probably would have been added in the mid-1960s as it is quite similar to the ones we had installed in NEW JERSEY (BB-62) in 1967-69. Here is a photo of her in Long Beach 1981 prior to her modernization:
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(Also, the sensors have all been removed). Here is a picture of both of the units during our 1968-69 deployment:
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Hope this helps!
ps - I was on board INTREPID in 2015, but didn't get any pix of the starboard side of the island!

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:53 am 
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Hello all

Some good references for the 1/350 Gallery kit...which shows the 1967 version...
Here is Intrepid on her way to SEA in the Suez canal. Great detail shots for the model builder
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...Re-enforcements for the Air Wing have arrived...the heavy section is on board! :-)

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Just make sure you add the correct cold-war radar dish... :big_grin:


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EJFoeth wrote:
Just make sure you add the correct cold-war radar dish... :big_grin:


Of course...round dish! This is the ANH version with only 3 LG legs and the correct early dish! :-)


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anj4de wrote:
Hello to France...

I have the plans for CV-18, what looks to be the origional drawings for her SCB-125 upgarde, and the island levels do not show that feature...yet the carrier and all others have it. Is it possible that a kit producer for once had a look at plans? Would be a novum...too bad they did not pay enough attention on the real thing! :-( The picture is just a cropped view...and shrunk to forum limits. The original is almost 30M large!

cheers
Uwe

Hello Germany,

I could have a look at the GA plans I have for CV-9, 10, 11, 34 and 38 only today.
Only CV-34 and 38 plans show the feature.
CV-9, 10 and 11 plans are as your CV-18 one.

Maybe there were at least two sources of GA plans?
In any case, GA plans are not a reliable source for details, they are not meant for that. :no_2:

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Has any one seen a set or own a set of Hull Lines for the Essex class after the hull modifications. I would love to get my hands on a copy of them. I build 1/96 scale models and would love to modify a Essex hull in 1/96.

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Will the Starfighter decals replacement island and ship/air wing decals work for the 1/530 USS Hornet shown here?

https://freetimehobbies.com/1-530-revel ... ry-vessel/

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task force 58 wrote:
Will the Starfighter decals replacement island and ship/air wing decals work for the 1/530 USS Hornet shown here?


The decals should work fine; they're generally accurate (although I have a few detail differences with them), and between it and the kit sheet (which has some odds and ends that may be helpful) you will be able to cover everything. The island will work but Model Monkey makes a 3D-printed island specifically for Hornet, with all details specific to that ship:

https://www.shapeways.com/product/QBWJJ ... -1967-1969

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Thanks I'm looking at building Wasp and Yorktown first then Hornet.

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I'm about to start working on LPH-4 Boxer but the only set of plans I got is BOGP for LPH-5 Princeton. Since I'm not very familiar with this time period I was wondering if you guys could help out some by pointing out any major differences between these two. I'm collecting all the photos I can find and I'll be looking for those differences myself but good pointers would be greatly appreciated... :wave_1:

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LPH 4 Boxer http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/11/1104.htm
LPH 5 Princeton http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/11/1105.htm


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Thanks David, I've already plow through those. One immediate observations is that BOXER was the last still in service with all of her 5" twin mounts in place while LPH-8 (Valley Forge) and LPH-5 (Princeton) landed half of theirs. I think unmodified Layte, Tarawa and Philippine Sea which also retain all of their 5" mounts were all decommissioned by that time.

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Boxer retained all four twin mounts, but lost all of the singles. Princeton and Valley Forge lost half of each, retaining two twins and two singles.


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