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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:37 am 
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The blister ran from Frame 54 to Frame 175. The hull plating was removed and new framing and plating added to fair in the blister smoothly from Frame 39 to Frame 54 forward and from Frame 175 to Frame 195 aft.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2017 3:37 pm 
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Okay, People I need some help!!!

I'm planning to take my 1/350 scale USS Hancock CV-19 and convert it into the LPH-8 USS Valley Forge. I found some decals from Starfighter and some other converging parts from ModelMonkey. What I still need to know is what aircraft did it have on for its last cruise to Vietnam in 1969-1970??

I will also need to know the number of each aircraft type and unit assigned to.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 2:32 pm 
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Ahoy -- Modeling USS Valley Forge will be a fun challenge!

https://www.history.navy.mil/research/histories/ship-histories/danfs/v/valley-forge-cv-45.html:
On her final deployment Valley Forge "loaded special landing-force equipment at Subic Bay and embarked the Commander, Special Landing Forces Bravo and a squadron of Marine CH-46 transport helicopters."

A "squadron of Marine CH-46" describes an HMM squadron. Ships and Aircraft of the U.S. Fleet, 11th Ed. (1978), says HMM squadrons contained 18 CH-46D/F helicopters.

Google HMM "USS Valley Forge" 1969 produces several leads, including http://www.popasmoke.com/visions/thumbnails.php?album=75. The squadron appears to be HMM-164, squadron code YT.

In 1973 my LPH (USS Okinawa) with a squadron of CH-53D's also carried one USMC UH-1 and two AH-1's. Okinawa also carried her own USN CH-46D (engine gray) for the ship's USN aviators to maintain their own proficiency.

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Thank you for the information it will help out a lot. I think with what i read there should be:

18 CH-46 Sea Knight
04 CH-43 Sea Stallion
02 UH-1 Huey
02 AH-1 Cobra

I think this is right for the time period. More research is what I'm going to be doing in the near future!!

I served in the ARMY and love the history of NAVY ships.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:52 pm 
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I'm not sure if this is the best place to post this but for those of you that pre-ordered the newly re-released Revell model of the Oriskany, I just checked and my order shipped today from Tower Hobbies.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:57 am 
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Doc wrote:
I'm not sure if this is the best place to post this but for those of you that pre-ordered the newly re-released Revell model of the Oriskany, I just checked and my order shipped today from Tower Hobbies.


I saw several of them on the shelf at Brookhurst Hobbies in Garden Grove, CA this past Saturday.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:46 pm 
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Thanks Sean.

I need advice please. In order to use the greatly detailed 1/560 scale Oriskany island structure designed by Model Monkey, I'd like to add the ECM boom structure to the box he already includes on the starboard side of the island.

I don't think that boom is on the GM Essex class carrier 1/540 scale photoetch addon. Can anyone suggest what can be used to simulate that boom for the USS Oriskany? This structure was added to the starboard side of the ships island between the 1967 and '69 cruises. It can be seen in a couple of shots from the 1969 cruise book which I'll attach below.

Any suggestions greatly appreciated.


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Hi Doc,

Did some looking. The good news is that the Forrestal's got the same gear. The bad news is I don't think any of the Forrestal Class Kits in any scale model it. Some of the other Essex Class ships had it as well. It appears that the Gallery Intrepid is modeled prior to her getting the ECM structure and antena's. A quick search on the various Essex Kits of yesteryear did not show any that had that either.

So I would recommend trying to scratch build it or go with an earlier version of Oriskany if you don't want to tackle it. If I were to do it, I would make some stretch sprue pieces using a candle and piece it together . Maybe create a drawing so that you can use it like you would doing a balsa stick model. Lay the sprue on the drawing and create the structure. It is not hard just time consuming and frustrating when you glue your fingers and everything else trying to create it. It can be done without master modeling skills so give it a try. I have done stuff like that before and if you get it right, it is quite rewarding.

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Mark. Thanks for taking the time to check for other kits with the same ECM gear. On the Gold Medal Models photo etch Shipsets for REVELL MIDWAY, FORRESTAL, AND ESSEX- CLASS AIRCRAFT CARRIERS (1/540), there are Late Forrestal ECM antenna supports, etc. Would this work for Oriskany as well?

Here's a close up of the parts on the GM photo etch set-

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:45 pm 
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it is an Essex class carrier & that is for Essex class plus other carriers so why not.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:14 pm 
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Thanks David. I didn't think the Forrestal was an Essex class carrier and just wanted to know if this photo etch part would work as the one on the Oriskany. I'm trying to wrap my head around how it's folded to get the shape it needs to be.

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Hi Doc,


Great find! That is it.


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Thanks Mark. Any idea how the photo etch part would be folded and attached to the platform? It appears to have 3 sides to form some sort of triangular shape. I guess I'm going to have to find a better image of the structure itself to figure it out.

As near as I can figure, the photo etch part makes a 3 sided 'open box'. I tried to visualize how it should be bent to look like it's meant to. The end would be bent at a right angle of course. I'm not sure where the platform attaches.


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The part folds up and around the solid rectangular piece at the bottom to form a three-sided rectangle - the open side would face the bulkhead. This image from Navsource may help a little with orientating it: http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/025995h.jpg

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Timmy, thanks. You replied while I was posting above. I appreciate all the help and will include mention of this ECM being part of the GM photo etch set at my website.

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I think here's where the platform piece slots in:


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:big_grin: Well done, fellas, that is most definitely the correct photo-etch part and should look great on an Essex or Forrestal class model, including these 3D-printed islands, Oriskany and Saratoga.


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I've gone through a few of Oriskany's cruise books and so far, this is the best image I've found of the ECM antenna and support. This is from the 1971 book.

To be honest, it really doesn't look anything like the photo etch part from Forrestal to me but with some other parts in the photo etch set, it might be possible for something to work.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 8:44 am 
CV-34 was completed as a SCB-27A ship. Friedman's Illustrated Design History of Aircraft Carriers lists the beam of -27A ships as 101 ft. at the waterline. However, the final beam of Oriskany is listed as 106 ft. So, was she completed in 1950 with a 101 or 106 ft beam? I know CV 34 was unique and just want to confirm the as built dimension. Thanks for any help.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:57 am 
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106'. read this link as she had 2' 9" blisters added per side during upgrade. http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/023456.jpg http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/34.htm


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