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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:44 am 
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Once again, thanks Tim.

As for the sub-flight deck structures, here's a photo of the same on Courageous. They look to me like they have small platforms mid-level with railings:

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Thanks for the tip on the forward 0.5inch quad. Here's a better angle on Glorious:


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I've got photos of the port rear sponson, but can't see any 0.5 inch. Unless they were starboard side?

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:49 pm 
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The sub-flight deck structures are not dissimilar to the two fittings each side of ARK ROYAL's flight deck abreast after ends of the catapults, which raised her longitudinal windbreaks.

The 26 May 1940 photo of GLORIOUS from dead astern, taken from HIGHLANDER, shows four slanting projections, again looking like gun barrels, outboard of the two Hurricanes on the port after corner of the flight deck, with the supports for a sponson just aft of the after port HF aerial mast. A clearer view is the photo at http://glarac.co.uk/files/images/HMS%20Glorious%20dock%20(600%20x%20390)_0.jpg, where the mounting is covered - the dark object just aft of the after port HF aerial mast. The sponson is also visible in this photo: https://www.flickr.com/photos/36758831@N04/4887924777/
Incidentally, Burt says this about COURAGEOUS' light anti-aircraft armament after her 1935-36 refit: "LAA added as in Glorious except that multiple 0.5in were on the starboard side instead of port side. 2 pdrs added (4 instead of 8 barrels)." She seems to have had a different arrangement of sponsons just below the starboard after corner of her flight deck after this refit - examination of a higher-resolution version of this photo - http://www.hmscourageous.co.uk/assets/images/39-ac.jpg - shows a rounded sponson, just larger than the quadruple 0.5" mounting it contains, jus aft of the after starboard HF aerial mast, and just below flight deck level. GLORIOUS had a similar arrangement to port.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:19 pm 
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Thanks - got it. I have that photo and have cropped a high res version. It definitely shows the quad 0.5inch:

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:37 am 
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The island configuration of Glorious in 1940 is an obscure topic...

it was continously enlarged, the canvas screens were replaced by steel structures, wind deflectors

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:49 am 
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And then by the time of the Norwegian Campaign a further level was added to the island.
Unfortunately these are the images of the poorest quality some of them are merely screenshots from a British Pathe documentary. I'm planning a model of Glorious in Norway but the scarcity of information about the island is a major obstacle, really.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:22 am 
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Regarding HMS Hermes camouflage in 1942...

Vlad wrote:
SovereignHobbies, can you explain your labeling in those photos please? On the hull, you label the bow and stern as the same colour when to me it looks like the light stripe diagonally under the bridge is the same colour as the stern and the bow is darker.

The schemes I've seen use AP507A as the obviously darkest colour on the hull, B5 as the mid colour on the bow and the pattern on the bridge, and AP507C as the base/lightest colour everywhere else (middle hull and stern included). Do you have something that actively disproves this? Are you just speculating with your labeling, as those colour combinations all could come out looking quite different!


I would also be very interested to read opinions on this matter. I have all the colours for a future build (also the revised B5, read the PDF and I am convinced). If anyone more knowledgeable can give his/her opinion or point me in the right direction for research, I will be very grateful! :wave_1:

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