The Ship Model Forum

The Ship Modelers Source
It is currently Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:43 pm

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 67 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4
Author Message
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:44 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu Dec 22, 2005 10:50 am
Posts: 40
Once again, thanks Tim.

As for the sub-flight deck structures, here's a photo of the same on Courageous. They look to me like they have small platforms mid-level with railings:

Image

Thanks for the tip on the forward 0.5inch quad. Here's a better angle on Glorious:


Image

I've got photos of the port rear sponson, but can't see any 0.5 inch. Unless they were starboard side?

Image


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:49 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:33 am
Posts: 210
The sub-flight deck structures are not dissimilar to the two fittings each side of ARK ROYAL's flight deck abreast after ends of the catapults, which raised her longitudinal windbreaks.

The 26 May 1940 photo of GLORIOUS from dead astern, taken from HIGHLANDER, shows four slanting projections, again looking like gun barrels, outboard of the two Hurricanes on the port after corner of the flight deck, with the supports for a sponson just aft of the after port HF aerial mast. A clearer view is the photo at http://glarac.co.uk/files/images/HMS%20Glorious%20dock%20(600%20x%20390)_0.jpg, where the mounting is covered - the dark object just aft of the after port HF aerial mast. The sponson is also visible in this photo: https://www.flickr.com/photos/36758831@N04/4887924777/
Incidentally, Burt says this about COURAGEOUS' light anti-aircraft armament after her 1935-36 refit: "LAA added as in Glorious except that multiple 0.5in were on the starboard side instead of port side. 2 pdrs added (4 instead of 8 barrels)." She seems to have had a different arrangement of sponsons just below the starboard after corner of her flight deck after this refit - examination of a higher-resolution version of this photo - http://www.hmscourageous.co.uk/assets/images/39-ac.jpg - shows a rounded sponson, just larger than the quadruple 0.5" mounting it contains, jus aft of the after starboard HF aerial mast, and just below flight deck level. GLORIOUS had a similar arrangement to port.


Last edited by tjstoneman on Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:21 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:19 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Dec 22, 2005 10:50 am
Posts: 40
Thanks - got it. I have that photo and have cropped a high res version. It definitely shows the quad 0.5inch:

Image:


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:37 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:31 am
Posts: 38
The island configuration of Glorious in 1940 is an obscure topic...

it was continously enlarged, the canvas screens were replaced by steel structures, wind deflectors

Attachment:
File comment: a good one of the original config
glorious_island.jpg
glorious_island.jpg [ 101.53 KiB | Viewed 297 times ]


Attachment:
File comment: enlarged upper level, wind deflectors added to compass platform
island02.jpg
island02.jpg [ 94.73 KiB | Viewed 297 times ]


Attachment:
File comment: compass platform enlarged, wind deflector extended
island03.jpg
island03.jpg [ 36.46 KiB | Viewed 297 times ]


Attachment:
File comment: poor photo from a different angle
island04.jpg
island04.jpg [ 38.56 KiB | Viewed 297 times ]


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:49 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:31 am
Posts: 38
And then by the time of the Norwegian Campaign a further level was added to the island.
Unfortunately these are the images of the poorest quality some of them are merely screenshots from a British Pathe documentary. I'm planning a model of Glorious in Norway but the scarcity of information about the island is a major obstacle, really.


Attachments:
island_norway.jpg
island_norway.jpg [ 38.66 KiB | Viewed 296 times ]
island_norway1.jpg
island_norway1.jpg [ 33.07 KiB | Viewed 296 times ]
4.jpg
4.jpg [ 106.23 KiB | Viewed 296 times ]
5.jpg
5.jpg [ 95.37 KiB | Viewed 296 times ]
3.jpg
3.jpg [ 102.52 KiB | Viewed 296 times ]
1.jpg
1.jpg [ 84.03 KiB | Viewed 296 times ]
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:22 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:16 pm
Posts: 283
Regarding HMS Hermes camouflage in 1942...

Vlad wrote:
SovereignHobbies, can you explain your labeling in those photos please? On the hull, you label the bow and stern as the same colour when to me it looks like the light stripe diagonally under the bridge is the same colour as the stern and the bow is darker.

The schemes I've seen use AP507A as the obviously darkest colour on the hull, B5 as the mid colour on the bow and the pattern on the bridge, and AP507C as the base/lightest colour everywhere else (middle hull and stern included). Do you have something that actively disproves this? Are you just speculating with your labeling, as those colour combinations all could come out looking quite different!


I would also be very interested to read opinions on this matter. I have all the colours for a future build (also the revised B5, read the PDF and I am convinced). If anyone more knowledgeable can give his/her opinion or point me in the right direction for research, I will be very grateful! :wave_1:

_________________
CV-8: http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=153851
DD-436: http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=157123
CVL-24 http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=158455


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:02 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Aug 24, 2005 3:19 pm
Posts: 27
Location: Montreal
Hello all

Last week I receive the Flyhawk HMS Hermes and the Aoshima HMS Hermes in
the same day.

The Flyhawk is very impressive but the Aoshima is nice too with the extra
PE so I will make both in the same time

I start to search for some reference picture for around 1935 and 1925 .

I found this site with some picture and drawing of the earlier aircraft carrier, its in
Japanese ...I think, but google translate the textes and it is ok for most of the textes !!!

https://translate.google.com/translate? ... wing%2F711

My plan is to make one around 1925 and the other around 1935 in the china
station colors scheme, if you have some picture around those period, I will be
happy to see it but at the end I will try my best to accurate as possible with
what I have found on the net

I love the idea of put some Camel and early torpedo plane for the 1925 and some
Flycatcher and big ugly biplane on the 1935 with some float plane and junk ....
and maybe one hold destroyer

So if someone can help me with the picture of the HMS Hermes,sadly is not
a very prolific ship on the net

I will try my best to update my progress here and will start with the planes

Have a nice one

Marc P


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 67 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Derek66 and 5 guests


You can post new topics in this forum
You can reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group