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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 11:23 am 
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hj1985 wrote:

Hi Mike

So lucky to find you here.

I recently bought IHP's 1/700 Colossus (a very nice quality kit with amazing details) and have some questions regarding the light AA weapon configuration.

I have no issue with Pom-Pom, but not sure about 40mm guns.

We know in July 1945, all Colossus' Oerlikon 20 mm guns were replaced by Bofors 40 mm guns.

Norman Friedman's research puts the approved 40mm total in Sept 1945 as 10 Boffins (replacing twin 20mm) plus 11 Mk.III.

http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/sh ... Review.htm

1. I think Part #D68 of your kit represents single Bofors, I counted 8 on the right and 11 on the left, totalling 19. There were also a further pair on each quarter of the stern at quarterdeck level as per Friedman, but I don't seem to find it.

2. Also I'm not sure what AA configuration Part #D82 represents.

3. Do we have any QF 3-pounder Vickers in the kit too?

If you could shed some light on this topic, it is much appreciated!


1) The complete projected 40mm Bofors complement may not have all made it onto the ship, or some were removed quickly, as I couldn't find any photos of the 40mm single Bofors in Colossus at the stern during my research. Those 2 Bofors at the stern in the gallery were badly positioned, so it's possible with that, in addition to the war being over and the need for them not as necessary, they didn't last long there. The Heller kit doesn't model them there, either.

You're correct, Colossus herself didn't have the original twin 20mm for long, as they were landed and replaced with the 40mm Bofors mounts after she arrived in the Pacific. Our newer, updated version of the Colossus kit represents the ship mid-1945 or so onward. The other ships started landing two 40mm Bofors, one each from the forward port and starboard sponsons, and the kits all reflect that.

Warrior at the beginning of RCN service had the two 40mm Bofors at the stern at the corners of the open gallery. I have a photo to prove this, and the forthcoming kit will have them. She also had one saluting gun replacing one of the three 40mm mounts at the starboard aft gallery. It's hard to find good photos of this mount but we'll do the best we can with it.

2) Part D82 was the original Type 282 radar part for the kit, but we've since made a new, more accurate one thanks to some help. A sprue of 6 extras is being included with all versions of the kits now and the instructions updated for them. If you want some, let me know, I can get you a sprue of them.

3) The ships did not carry 3pdrs in the time periods we are marketing them.

Warrior and Ocean also had different bridge arrangements from the other ships. And Ocean was the only ship to mount SM-1 radar. We will be making new parts to properly represent them.

Now, we know about Warrior, but if you have photos of Colossus or the other ships with the 40mm mounts at the stern after mid '45, let me know so we can correct the kit.

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hj1985 wrote:

Hi Mike

So lucky to find you here.

I recently bought IHP's 1/700 Colossus (a very nice quality kit with amazing details) and have some questions regarding the light AA weapon configuration.

I have no issue with Pom-Pom, but not sure about 40mm guns.

We know in July 1945, all Colossus' Oerlikon 20 mm guns were replaced by Bofors 40 mm guns.

Norman Friedman's research puts the approved 40mm total in Sept 1945 as 10 Boffins (replacing twin 20mm) plus 11 Mk.III.

http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/sh ... Review.htm

1. I think Part #D68 of your kit represents single Bofors, I counted 8 on the right and 11 on the left, totalling 19. There were also a further pair on each quarter of the stern at quarterdeck level as per Friedman, but I don't seem to find it.

2. Also I'm not sure what AA configuration Part #D82 represents.

3. Do we have any QF 3-pounder Vickers in the kit too?

If you could shed some light on this topic, it is much appreciated!


1) The complete projected 40mm Bofors complement may not have all made it onto the ship, or some were removed quickly, as I couldn't find any photos of the 40mm single Bofors in Colossus at the stern during my research. Those 2 Bofors at the stern in the gallery were badly positioned, so it's possible with that, in addition to the war being over and the need for them not as necessary, they didn't last long there. The Heller kit doesn't model them there, either.

You're correct, Colossus herself didn't have the original twin 20mm for long, as they were landed and replaced with the 40mm Bofors mounts after she arrived in the Pacific. Our newer, updated version of the Colossus kit represents the ship mid-1945 or so onward. The other ships started landing two 40mm Bofors, one each from the forward port and starboard sponsons, and the kits all reflect that.

Warrior at the beginning of RCN service had the two 40mm Bofors at the stern at the corners of the open gallery. I have a photo to prove this, and the forthcoming kit will have them. She also had one saluting gun replacing one of the three 40mm mounts at the starboard aft gallery. It's hard to find good photos of this mount but we'll do the best we can with it.

2) Part D82 was the original Type 282 radar part for the kit, but we've since made a new, more accurate one thanks to some help. A sprue of 6 extras is being included with all versions of the kits now and the instructions updated for them. If you want some, let me know, I can get you a sprue of them.

3) The ships did not carry 3pdrs in the time periods we are marketing them.

Warrior and Ocean also had different bridge arrangements from the other ships. And Ocean was the only ship to mount SM-1 radar. We will be making new parts to properly represent them.

Now, we know about Warrior, but if you have photos of Colossus or the other ships with the 40mm mounts at the stern after mid '45, let me know so we can correct the kit.

Mike Bartel


Thank you Mike.

I have ordered your new HMS Glory, look forward to the kit arrival.


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Looking for information on HMS Colossus, ships boats and life rafts. Having looked at all the pictures of the class I can find on line my best guess is, from the stern on the starboard side 2 X 25ft fast motor boats, a 16ft fast motor boat and 32ft cutter. On the port side 2 X 35ft fast motor boats also what size life rafts were carried? Any help appreciated thanks Al.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:21 pm 
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Hi David thank you for your response. When the Bofor's were fitted in Australia July 1945, from what I've read she left the UK in March 1945, so I would think that what is shown on your plan would be correct, thank you Al.


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Thank you David, please could you let me know if the plan gives any details on life rafts. Only problem now is to find some replacement 1/400 30ft fast Motor boats, Al.


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Hi David thank you PM sent, Al.


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Glory, Triumph and Theseus 1/700


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Need assistance with HMAS Vengeance AA fit circa 1954. Need to know the layout and disposition of the different mounts, have had difficulty finding reference info for this aspect of the fit.

Thanks, Mike Bartel


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I believe this to be one of Bonnie's Saluting Guns. Still in use within RCN lines today.

It's a WW2 Ground mount 6Pdr AT gun, grafted onto a Pre-WW1 Vickers Sons and Maxim 3 pdr mount.

If you need more detailed photos, let me know.

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NavyShooter wrote:
I believe this to be one of Bonnie's Saluting Guns. Still in use within RCN lines today.

It's a WW2 Ground mount 6Pdr AT gun, grafted onto a Pre-WW1 Vickers Sons and Maxim 3 pdr mount.

If you need more detailed photos, let me know.

NS


Nice, thanks!

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Hi Colossus lovers,

I have been quiet about this for a long time, but my 1:350 scale '25 de Mayo' is quickly nearing her completion, in time for the 40th anniversary of the Falklands War.

More to come within a few weeks.

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DavidP wrote:
scratch built or kit & if kit then what manufacturer?


http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=5057&start=22

Heller 1:400 kit: but with considerable surgery to make it 1:350. The fuselage plug for instance is 71 mm long.

The island is totally scratch built, and of course the flight deck extensions.

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DavidP wrote:
so neither but a kitbash. I've done that a number of times. I have that same Heller model that I'm going to kitbash into the angled deck version of HMCS Bonaventure.

I have also several plans of Bonnie, do you need any of those? And do you consider a stretch to 1:350 as well? I'm very satisfied with my result.

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what time periods do the plans represent? what size are the files in megabytes? did you widen the hull as can't really see a white seam that joins the 2 hull halves together?


My model: sure I widened the hull, to 70mm on my model. I added wedge-shaped spacers where the halves joined, see the enlargement below. Since I used grey filler (Italeri) to smoothen the seams, the result looks a bit patchy.
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I also increased the height of the hull to 55mm, by cutting at the waterline and adding strips there, but more importantly by replacing the flight deck with one made from 2mm polystyrene, on top of the hull (not inside on ledgers like in the kit), this was to make sure that the knuckles in the hull (fore and aft) will sit at the correct height.

I will make a summary which files I have of the Bonaventure.

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I have this file also in 3163x1325 size. Also a colororized aquarel showing top and side view, probably familiar to you. Right now I can't find the file, only a printout I made scale 1:400 in b/w. I believe the source of that one is "The Bonnie, HMCS BONAVENTURE" by J. Allan Snowie.

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Well, it seems you're all set then! Can't better that.

If you need more details of my kit conversion let me know.

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Two more updates, platforms and catwalks added, all painting essentially done. Now to add all antennas, railings, boats and floats, radars. And finally: the aircraft!
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Now progress is going fast...
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And the fnal result (for now)
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 5:33 pm 
Beautiful work on your "Argie Bargie" Maarten! I'm envious of your modelling skill.


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