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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 12:55 pm 
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The ship's company cheering Admiral Sir John Tovey as he passes the Flagship, HMS KING GEORGE V, on board a destroyer.

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ADMIRAL TOVEY LEAVES HOME FLEET TO BECOME C-IN-C THE NORE. 8 MAY 1943, SCAPA FLOW, BRITISH HOME FLEET COMMAND CHANGE OVER WHEN THE NEW COMMANDER IN CHIEF, HOME FLEET, ADMIRAL SIR BRUCE A FRASER, KBE, CB, TOOK OVER FROM THE RETIRING C-IN-C, ADMIRAL SIR JOHN C TOVEY, KCB, KBE, DSO, WHO IS TAKING UP HIS APPOINTMENT AS C-IN-C, NORE.. © IWM (A 16476)IWM Non Commercial Licence

Cannot find any other pic, only this one from a series also showing the UP launchers (so pre-42) and three single mounts, no tubs.

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This one was part from a large series of images on Ebay (that I did not buy because $$$$)


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:18 am 
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Some pics of HMS Prince of Wales (#1, #2, #5 are not a positive id, but it makes sense in the order of the pics, so, ight be HMS PoW).

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THE VISIT OF HIS MAJESTY THE KING TO ROSYTH. 5 MARCH 1941.. © IWM (A 3363)IWM Non Commercial Licence

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THE VISIT OF HIS MAJESTY THE KING TO ROSYTH. 5 MARCH 1941.. © IWM (A 3364)IWM Non Commercial Licence

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THE VISIT OF HIS MAJESTY THE KING TO ROSYTH. 5 MARCH 1941.. © IWM (A 3365)IWM Non Commercial Licence

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THE VISIT OF HIS MAJESTY THE KING TO ROSYTH. 5 MARCH 1941.. © IWM (A 3366)IWM Non Commercial Licence

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THE VISIT OF HIS MAJESTY THE KING TO ROSYTH. 5 MARCH 1941.. © IWM (A 3367)IWM Non Commercial Licence


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:26 am 
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The ship's company cheering Admiral Sir John Tovey as he passes the Flagship, HMS KING GEORGE V, on board a destroyer.


Is this a 'cropped' photo, or where is the DD, out of photo I assume?


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This is the direct link to the IWM + their description; no
cropping on my part


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 10:38 pm 
EJFoeth wrote:
This is the direct link to the IWM + their description; no
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Thanks. So the DD is, obviously, just out of the photo.


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Could anyone help please with either a picture of, or where I can find one of the UP directors that were replaced by the pom pom directors during HMS KGV 1941 re-fit, when UP's were removed. Thanks Al.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:07 am 
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I've tried finding a good image of this particular sight but have not been able to find any. For the KGV's the directors are very high up in the superstructure in a tub between both the forward and aft HACS directors and despite many excellent shots of these ships the sights are not on them. (And the way this universe works, if a good shot at the right location was found then somebody would be in front of them or they'd be wrapped up in canvas)


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:35 am 
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Al Newman wrote:
Could anyone help please with either a picture of, or where I can find one of the UP directors that were replaced by the pom pom directors during HMS KGV 1941 re-fit, when UP's were removed. Thanks Al.



If you go back a page in this thread, the last word on this subject was Martocticus giving a link to a description of the sight but no picture


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:02 am 
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Thank you both for your replies. Having looked at the previous thread you mentioned Francis, it refers to Greenwich Maritime Museum, where if you look at the attached link and scroll down there is a picture of the rear tub with the director protruding, its not that clear though. https://blog.firedrake.org/archive/2015/01/7521.jpg However as the museum is not that far from where I live i'ii try to get there and take a photo.

From your response EJ did the Type 271 radar fitted in early 1941, replace the forward director. Thanks Al.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:19 am 
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Thanks for the picture Al and well spotted. Interesting that there appears to be only one sight though compared with what was shown in the drawing I referred to.

It will be useful to now what the model arrangement is both at the forward and aft positions


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:31 am 
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Al Newman wrote:
From your response EJ did the Type 271 radar fitted in early 1941, replace the forward director.


Don't know unfortunately; the book only has a table with what type of radar was fitted on what ship and when. For the smaller craft it treats the entire class.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:47 am 
Unbeknownst to me when I was making the model of it a month ago, but now obvious from two pictures in the latest History Today, the POW had a QUAD pom-pom on its aft turret, not the octuple which all the sources indicate. There is one picture of her docked in Singapore, with Phillips in the foreground, and another of Churchill on the quarterdeck in August, with the aft turret in the background and the (sheilded) pom-pom clearly visible. Its a quad, so heads up if you are making her, but I cannot tell you, and would like to know, if the one on the B turret was a quad or an octuple. Would anybody happen to have any more information? Even Raven and Roberts said it was an octuple.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:34 am 
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Only Y-turret carried a quad, B-turret carried an octuple mount, just watch the video below




The pompoms have some splinter shield in front and behind them, but I would not really call that shielded; I'd reserve that term for the pompoms on HMS King George V below. Can't remember a model having that detail correct :smallsmile:

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ON BOARD THE BATTLESHIP HMS KING GEORGE V. MARCH 1941.. © IWM (A 3650)IWM Non Commercial Licence


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:29 am 
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EJFoeth wrote:
Only Y-turret carried a quad, B-turret carried an octuple mount, just watch the video below


GREAT historical footage you posted there EJ, do you have a link where it can be played full screen and with sound (as I couldn't get the imbed to do either)!

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The pompoms have some splinter shield in front and behind them, but I would not really call that shielded; I'd reserve that term for the pompoms on HMS King George V below. Can't remember a model having that detail correct :smallsmile:


With all due respect, I'd hardly call what you refer to in the photo you posted as having 'shielded guns' either. All I see are the waist high sides of the 'gun tub,' or extended platform the weapon sits on, and a splinter shield in front of part of the weapon itself, the extended gun crew themselves look rather exposed / naked to me. But that's just my opinion. :smallsmile:

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:37 am 
Thanks for the post, and how many more of this sort of historical first hand resources are there I wonder. Fantastic history which needs preserving. It certainly answered my question. I wonder if the photos I mentioned are stills from a film.


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KevinD wrote:
With all due respect, I'd hardly call what you refer to in the photo you posted as having 'shielded guns' either. All I see are the waist high sides of the 'gun tub,' or extended platform the weapon sits on, and a splinter shield in front of part of the weapon itself, the extended gun crew themselves look rather exposed / naked to me. But that's just my opinion. :smallsmile:


The crew has a small compartment on the lower pompom. (Probably more blast related than anything else). But most of them are indeed in the open!


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KevinD wrote:
GREAT historical footage you posted there EJ, do you have a link where it can be played full screen and with sound (as I couldn't get the imbed to do either)!


Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK8XE0qA9Rs

In the future, just click on the title in the embedded video and it should take you to the video on the full YouTube page.

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Timmy C wrote:
In the future, just click on the title in the embedded video and it should take you to the video on the full YouTube page.


THANKS Timmy!

And I'll repeat, GREAT historical footage! THANKS for posting EJ.

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You're welcome :wave_1: I suffered massive detail overload syndrome when first finding this footage. There's much more on the channels of Critical Past and Britisch Pathé, on their own websites and via youtube.


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