Calling all South Dakota-class (BB-57) fans!
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Re: Calling all USS South Dakota class fans
Looks great Dave!
Martin
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- Dave Hill
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Thanks Martin!!!
...and thank god for my optivisor!!!!!!!!!!
Dave
...and thank god for my optivisor!!!!!!!!!!
Dave
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luke
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Wow - nice work mate.
This is my first post in a long long time, and I'm heaps impressed with the fourm changes from a few years ago. These groupings are fantastic
. I'm currently doing some casual reasearch into the SoDak over the last few weeks, but after discovering this today, it may get a bit more intense.
Well done Admins!
This is my first post in a long long time, and I'm heaps impressed with the fourm changes from a few years ago. These groupings are fantastic
Well done Admins!
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My eyes are going to be crossed for a week just for looking at all those rows of 20mm's!
Nice touch on the ammo drums! I'll store that one away for future use!
Beautiful build so far Dave.
Bob
Nice touch on the ammo drums! I'll store that one away for future use!
Beautiful build so far Dave.
Bob
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Thanks Bob!
...my Optivisor really came in handy with those!
...I think the ammo drums look a tad over-scale but .030" styrene rod looked too small...oh well...they look good to me!
Dave
...my Optivisor really came in handy with those!
...I think the ammo drums look a tad over-scale but .030" styrene rod looked too small...oh well...they look good to me!
Dave
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Hi all!
WIP update!!!...Now that all the major construction is about done, all that's left is just the little stuff and other details.

Mk.51 directors detailed with scrap PE to make them look somewhat like the real thing.

The deck mounted Mk.51 tubs
Dave
WIP update!!!...Now that all the major construction is about done, all that's left is just the little stuff and other details.

Mk.51 directors detailed with scrap PE to make them look somewhat like the real thing.

The deck mounted Mk.51 tubs
Dave
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The painted Mk. 51's, 20mm ammo lockers and floater net baskets

The painted Mk.51 tubs, ship's boats, cable reels and the scratch-built Stereoscopic range finder for the coning tower.
Dave
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Started work cutting and dry fitting some of the the PE railing.


Dave


Dave
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- JimRussell
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I am ALMOST too embarrassed to post this ship in the middle of Dave Hill's build, since it is the same ship, same camo and even backdated to 1944 as is Dave's. Consider it an OOB build with Tom's PE, with only the reconstruction required to go back to 1944.
If anyone would like a list of the mods required to go back to 1944, let me know and I will put them on this post.
Jim
If anyone would like a list of the mods required to go back to 1944, let me know and I will put them on this post.
Jim
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Sweeeeeeeet!!!!!!
Jim...you have nothing to be embarrassed about!!!...your build shows that Trumpy's "Mamie" with just a litte PE can look pretty good right OOB!
Got any more pics????
Dave
Jim...you have nothing to be embarrassed about!!!...your build shows that Trumpy's "Mamie" with just a litte PE can look pretty good right OOB!
Got any more pics????
Dave
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- rtheriaque
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Nicely done, Jim. While Dave is a tough act to follow, he had no such difficulty. I think the last Mamie build in this thread was mine, and it's downright pathetic!
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I remember your build...it looks pretty good to me!!!!!!! (any more pics?)...one question though...you and Jim's models look virtually identical in color...What colors did you use?...is that the Revised 1945 Navy Gray version of MS22?rtheriaque wrote:I think the last Mamie build in this thread was mine, and it's downright pathetic!
Dave
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- rtheriaque
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Not for me... Just the wrong colors. I hadn't yet heard of the specific formulas available, so I used the wrong Tamiya colors.
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Dave and R...que, Thanks
Dave there are some more pics in picture post. New entries - fast BBs and aunt and niece. The hull of Massachusetts looks darker in some of those pics. I mix to match a set of ModelMaster blues I bought some time back.
Jim
Dave there are some more pics in picture post. New entries - fast BBs and aunt and niece. The hull of Massachusetts looks darker in some of those pics. I mix to match a set of ModelMaster blues I bought some time back.
Jim
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Got a request for mods necessary to covert Trumpeter's 1/350 1946 Massachusetts to 1944. Will list the changes starting from the bow and going to the stern, all dimensions are decimal inches on the 1/350 model. These changes are taken from a 1/500 drawing made by Alan Chesley and published in "Ships Data - USS Massachusetts BB-59". This book is a BARGAIN, $6.99. Go to Battleshipcove.org, the store to order it.
1 Two quad 40mm near bow. Tub transverse CL (center line) is 2.95" from bow, outside edges of tub flush with hull. Directors in standard tubs (not elevated), forward of and touching the 40mm tub, slightly inboard from 40mm tub longitudinal CL. Dave Hill's posts have discussed the billboard notch under the port gun.
2 Top of #2 16" turret. One quad 40mm, one director and tub and two wing 20mm, identical to set up on #3 16".
3 Delete searchlight and platform on front face of primary director tower (part F-7), fill hole. Mount two large searchlights P and S on part F-26. Put small searchlight on part G-14.
4 Kit is missing the primary signal yard. Part is 2.40" long, .040" in diameter at max - tapered towards the ends. Made mine from a .040" sewing needle. Part is located on front face of primary director tower, just below part F-24
5 Air search radar is flat, rectangular SK, not the round parabolic SK2. 5" director radar does have the side "orange peel".
5B There are 4 "steam escape pipes" (do not know their name - safety blowdown tube?) on the aft sides of the funnel, 2 port and 2 stbd. The kit HINTS at them with a thin line and a curly end. Replaced with .045" dia brass rod.
6 The mainmast (aft of funnel) just has a SG radar on platform facing aft.
7 The 20mm gallery P and S of #3 16" barrels has just 2 guns per side rather than the 3 per side with the kit (I missed this one on my build).
8 Paint Meas 22, hull 5N below sheer line, 5H above, decks 20B. The kit painting instruction shows a "legal" meas 22 with a sliver of 5H on the aft 1/3 of the hull. Pictures of the 1944 ship (and M Donegan's box art) show that there was no 5H hull sliver on the aft portion of the hull, the 5N went all the way to the deck.
Good luck
Jim
1 Two quad 40mm near bow. Tub transverse CL (center line) is 2.95" from bow, outside edges of tub flush with hull. Directors in standard tubs (not elevated), forward of and touching the 40mm tub, slightly inboard from 40mm tub longitudinal CL. Dave Hill's posts have discussed the billboard notch under the port gun.
2 Top of #2 16" turret. One quad 40mm, one director and tub and two wing 20mm, identical to set up on #3 16".
3 Delete searchlight and platform on front face of primary director tower (part F-7), fill hole. Mount two large searchlights P and S on part F-26. Put small searchlight on part G-14.
4 Kit is missing the primary signal yard. Part is 2.40" long, .040" in diameter at max - tapered towards the ends. Made mine from a .040" sewing needle. Part is located on front face of primary director tower, just below part F-24
5 Air search radar is flat, rectangular SK, not the round parabolic SK2. 5" director radar does have the side "orange peel".
5B There are 4 "steam escape pipes" (do not know their name - safety blowdown tube?) on the aft sides of the funnel, 2 port and 2 stbd. The kit HINTS at them with a thin line and a curly end. Replaced with .045" dia brass rod.
6 The mainmast (aft of funnel) just has a SG radar on platform facing aft.
7 The 20mm gallery P and S of #3 16" barrels has just 2 guns per side rather than the 3 per side with the kit (I missed this one on my build).
8 Paint Meas 22, hull 5N below sheer line, 5H above, decks 20B. The kit painting instruction shows a "legal" meas 22 with a sliver of 5H on the aft 1/3 of the hull. Pictures of the 1944 ship (and M Donegan's box art) show that there was no 5H hull sliver on the aft portion of the hull, the 5N went all the way to the deck.
Good luck
Jim
- Frank O'Neill 2025
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Thanks for the list Jim.
Does anyone have a list of the modifications required to convert the Trumpeter Massachusetts into a decent reporesentation of the Indiana? The dazzle scheme seems just too cool to pass up.
Does anyone have a list of the modifications required to convert the Trumpeter Massachusetts into a decent reporesentation of the Indiana? The dazzle scheme seems just too cool to pass up.
Regards-Frank O'Neill
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- Dave Hill
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Frank,
Yankee Modelworks makes a USS Indiana conversion kit for Trumpy's Massechusetts.
Link: http://019e566.netsolstores.com/index.a ... odID=31130
HTH!!!!!!
Dave
Yankee Modelworks makes a USS Indiana conversion kit for Trumpy's Massechusetts.
Link: http://019e566.netsolstores.com/index.a ... odID=31130
HTH!!!!!!
Dave
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- Frank O'Neill 2025
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Thanks Dave-
Was hoping to be able to scratchbuild what I needed. You don't happen to know what's in the kit by chance do you??
Was hoping to be able to scratchbuild what I needed. You don't happen to know what's in the kit by chance do you??
Regards-Frank O'Neill
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- Dave Hill
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I found an open box review of Yankee Modelworks USS Indiana conversion kit!
Link: http://www.modelshipwrights.com/modules ... nt&id=3079
Dave
Link: http://www.modelshipwrights.com/modules ... nt&id=3079
Dave
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- Frank O'Neill 2025
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Awesome!
Thanks a million
Thanks a million
Regards-Frank O'Neill
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