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Hi Chuck,

I remember on SN website, it has been rumored. Anyway as Fujimi, Hasegawa and Aoshima are releasing most of the IJN BB, it is more than likely they will release these two ships in a near future, (2009?)

cheers

Gilbert

Just found this on Ebay while doing my checking routine , from what I can see this fellow used the Flyhawk P.E + plenty of other goodies . Fine masterpiece it is but if he is really trying to sell it at that price he might as well forget about it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Built-1-700-IJN-Bat ... .m20.l1116



Jose

If he gets that for the model then a lot of us are in the wrong business.

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guys
i thought she was sunk in 1944 so that's why nobody could find her you bin lookin in the wrong place and time
gary

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Yes Fuso and Yamashiro was sunk Oct. 1944 !! -so it must be an typing error.

It is a very fine model with lots of detailing -This kit/work is not done over a weekend.

Regarding the price:

I will say if there is a buyer, who wish a fine model of a IJN BB - The price is fine (remember how much time and effort the builder had lay in here). If we compare with a painting hanging on the wall, from a fine artist (Maybe +200 hours of work) the 1,500 USD seems reasonable.

Regards Lars

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I would agree that a lot of time and effort went into it. I can't speak to accuracy. It's not absolutely clean (esp the hull) but reasonably so. Closeup digital photography reveals a lot of flaws that are not otherwise so obvious. I run into this issue all the time.

The price is actually not so unrealistic for the work. I've seen more charged for less effort.

Price is determined by the value to the buyer, not the effort of the seller.

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Good thing we don't live off of this uh

Please, can somebody provide some info on hull lines of Fuso and Yamashiro as modernised - the shape of the lower hull?... I'm specially interested in the shape of the anti-torpedo blisters... the sources i saw until now gives quite unclear and even sometimes controversial (and thus confusing) "picture"... Many thanks in advance!

Hi Alex,

the only publications I have showing detailed drawings of these ships in 1944, and in particular their lower hulls, are the two Polish publications "Profile Morskie" #92 and #94.
However, I can't tell you how accurate are the drawings.

cheers

Gilbert

you have as well "Anatomy of the ship Fuso" but it is hard to get nowadays.

Hello,

Jose thanks for warning about pagoda structure. Nowadays I dont have time for models much due tight work schedule. Lots of vessel systems are waiting me to be comissioned But almost everyday trying to follow site.

I do not know how the price is determined for such finished models but its clear that it is not easy work he done. Accurracy is a big black hole in modelling cosmos almost grabbing all of us. Anyways I dont wanna make too much comment on this

Alex, here I scan some dwgs. of Anatomy of Ship FUSO book for you, hope they help. I put some remarks on scans as '' Discussion only!! '' And hope again Publisher will forgive me...







Regards
Serhan

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Hi Alex


this is one of the clearest shots i got on my GAKKEN 30 showing Fuso's belt side, the whole text is in japanese but i'm guessing this shot was taken somewhere around mid-30's on. HTH








Jose

Fuso was modernized in (at least) two stages. Between 1933-35 she had a lower armor belt and the original shorter hull. Later the armor belt was raised to casemate level and the stern was lenghtened. The drawings show the later belt, the photo shows the earlier one, hence the differences in appearance.
All the Aoshima 1/700 plastic models have the high belt/long hull configuration. The Hi-Mold resin kit was similar but they also had a limited edition with the short hull.

Fuso is really a confusing ship, the Skulski book is the only source I know of that clearly shows all the alterations. It is not only the hull, pagoda tower height changed over time (the top level was removed in wartime) as did the location of catapults.

Many thanks to Gilbert, DMcG, J.Soca and Honneamise, for your kind replies and consultation!
And, a special thanks to DMcG for these excellent and most informative scans - that's exactly what i wanted, such clear graphic views of the shape of the blisters!
...Please is it possible to say - whether the Yamashiro's blisters were identical in shape?...
Sincerely - Alex

Hi Alex,

it was my pleasure to help you. I have looked at my documentation (Profile Morskie #92 & #96) and the different drawings of both ships show an quite identical shape for the blisters. The only difference I have noticed is a longer vertical end, near the propellers, for Yamashiro.

cheers

Gilbert

Hi Gilbert,
Thank you for your information and additional data! ...Please can you clarify if possible what this "lower vertical end" meant? - does it mean that the "rear" (stern) end of the blister on Yamashiro went "deeper down" then on Fuso?

Hi Alex,

not exactly. If you look back at DMcG (Serhan) post, and at his first attached drawing, you will notice, near the outer propeller shaft, the blister has from the top a vertical part and then a curved part going towards the bow. On the Yamashiro, this vertical part goes down to the propeller shaft level and the curved part is thus minimum, assuming the overall height of the blister is the same for both ships.

cheers

Gilbert

Hi Gilbert,
Thank you very much! - it's pretty clear, understood you well and can imagine what you mean! Sincerely - Alex

If I am not mistaken, I believe one of Fuso/Yamashiro pair received a longer stern extension than the other one.

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