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Ensign Jay
PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 6:09 pm 
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Hi Condorman994, haven't spotted that yet , would you be so kind as to post some pics pehaps as I don't have a copy of that particular publication - which sounds like a great book BTW.

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Hi Ensign Jay,

I don't know about relationship between Trumpeter and Fujimi. I had heard that Fujimi kits are "made in Japan" but another rumor says they are ordering tools China and only injecting in Japan. In any case I don't believe that Trumpeter and Fujimi has common design template between their kit designers, although some "business partnership" between sales managers would be existing.

BTW, I vote Academy Warspite stern as far as comparing AOTS.

Firstly I scanned 1/150 scale stern structure drawing of AOTS Warspite (p. 64) and reduced it to 1/347.5 scale size (for Trumpeter QE) and 1/354.45 scale (for Academy Warspite). Then I print it and compared with each kit.

Perhaps attached pictures are telling themselves than any depiction. Though not perfect Academy Warspite is better of the two.

Despite of these shortcomings, I agree you that we have nice opportunity to build two QE Class battleships from kit. I hope our discussion will be feed back to their kit design someday :thumbs_up_1:

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I was aking about the possible connection between Trumpeter and Fujimi - design wise because of the similarities of the hull construction between the Hasegawa Akagi and the Fujimi Kongo. I have noticed this similarity between several Japanese manufactured kits and it made me think - dangerous I know , he he he :big_grin:

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Hi Jay,Can you pm me your e-mail address so i can send you the picture i quoted,I can't get them on the forum apparently they're too big a file? Being a bit of a old salt some things are beyond me!!!
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Hi condorman994, just had a chance to check the pics you sent and you are correct the photos clearly show the difference ? what to do ?

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Hi Jay,I found the mistake whilst building 1/128 scale RC boat using profile morskie plans of Queen Elizabeth,I've just done the forward superstructure when i saw the pictures in the book i mentioned earlier. The air was a bit colourfull i can tell you
But i had to modify it just because i knew about it!crazy or what?Just as well i did when i was sailing QE in our local lake a guy come across to me and said thats queen elizabeth,I served on her during the war-thats the first model i've seen thats got the flag deck right!
To rectify the mistake will be a pain in 1/350 the deck is very thin unless WEM or Gold Medal have the modification when they bring out Photo etch
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Just add to this discussion regarding the extension to QE`s flag deck.I`ve been closely looking at an excellent Hi-Res Photo of HMS Valiant from the time after she had the catapult etc removed,and it clearly shows that she did not have this extension to the flag deck ,and the Trumpy kit will be correct for the Valiant ,but not the QE.
I will posted this photo (Sent by Mr Roger Torgeson,Thanks Roger!!)as soon as I can get it on Snailbucket,which has worked heres the pic:

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Hope this helps a bit

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Guys, thank you for interesting discussion. I haven't noticed error on signal deck of Trumpy QE till I read this discussion.

Signal deck of Trumpy QE is right for her 1941 appearance with attractive (and very troublesome for us modellers :doh_1: ) camouflage pattern.

Also interesting is that she retains stern walk on her stern at this date.

Perhaps many of commercially available QE drawing for 1943 appearance (including Profile Morskie condorman994 mentioned) would be based on plans of 1941. It seems that 1/700 HP resin QE is also showing incorrect shape for 1943 and these would be reasons of error of trumpeter QE.

I myself have a fancy for her 1941 appearance. We can avoid correction of signal deck instead taking effort for more complex 1941 camouflage pattern :heh:

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Hi Mitsuaki
1941 camoflage - Hey how hard can it be ? :lol_3: :whistle:

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1941 camoflage - Hey how hard can it be ? :lol_3: :whistle:



Have you seen the Prince of Wales thread ? :big_grin: :please: :help_1: :anyone:

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Ensign Jay wrote:
Hi Mitsuaki
1941 camoflage - Hey how hard can it be ? :lol_3: :whistle:



Have you seen the Prince of Wales thread ? :big_grin: :please: :help_1: :anyone:


Not yet.

Do you mean "Calling all HMS King George V class (WWII) fans"?(http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=4715)

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Probably this one: viewtopic.php?f=69&t=87307
You know it's tough when it's 8 pages long and still going ;)

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Thank you Timmy for your quick reply about interesting and useful topic including QE 1941 :thanks:

Assumption of colours from monochrome photos are very difficult but still enjoyable work.

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Did I ask - how hard can it be ? - that was a dumb question ! ha ha ha

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If anybody is interested I`m doing a WIP on the QE to convert it, to depict the Valiant here:

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/inde ... wforum=354

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Hi Phil , that looks like an amazing build , HMS Valliant is a worthy alternative to modifying the QE , certainly worth consideration .

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Just a thought , was there a HMS Warspite coming from our good freinds at Trumpeter ?

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Ensign Jay wrote:
Just a thought , was there a HMS Warspite coming from our good freinds at Trumpeter ?


Yup,the Grand old lady is due to be made by Trumpy in 350th.

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I'm waiting for them to get their finger out and release the ww2 fits in 1/700.

I'd love to see the Barham, but I think I may end up buying the QE 1918 kit and starting from there. :idea:

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Im guessing a HMS Barham conversion from a 1918 1/700 kit of HMS Queen Elizabeth is not a hard a thing. Thoughts ?
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