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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 2:49 pm 
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have been doing a little research on Americas first "home brewed" capital ships BB-1 thru BB-3. My dilemna, a bit of trouble distinguishing Indiana from Massachusetts. Oregon seems easy to spot from cranes, bow ornament and anchors, whilst photographs of Indiana and Massachusetts seem to be in conflict. Both photos below are labeled "Massachusetts"
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Does anyone know, or know of an accurate source to determine?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 7:04 pm 
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I wish I had an answer for you. I too am looking for some reference of early US battleships.

No kits for the Indiana class either. :scratch:

Great pics.... by the way.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:02 am 
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No.1 - Massachusetts
No.2 - Indiana
http://www.maritimequest.com/warship_di ... na_bb1.htm

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Thank you Darius, the close up of Indiana has a clear view of No. 1 turret which is without the "victory" figurehead unique to Massachusetts.

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The American Steel Navy by John Alden has some good photos of these ships.

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This picture is from open source, showing the BB-1 bow. My question is who is the figure? At first I thought it was George Washington, but now I think it is a cameo of a women.
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Are there any decals or PE sets for the bow of the BB-1? I have the old Glenco kit that I'm converting to BB-1


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Are there any decals or PE sets for the bow of the BB-1? I have the old Glenco kit that I'm converting to BB-1


Gold Medal Models makes a set of PE for Oregon (and Olympia): http://goldmm.com/ships/gms2olym.htm

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I have the GMM set which has the bow shield for Oregon. I'm debating on how best to recreate the bb1 crest.


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The color of Indiana is still a mystery to me. At the battle of Santiago Bay a drawing of the battle indicates the ship was all white with the exception of the stacks in buff. Sometime later she was changed to all grey. There is also a picture in Navsource that has her just before the battle in white. Time frame is a bit ambiguous from what I have found in photographs. Maybe someone here can shed more light on when and at what time did they make the switch to all grey.


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Some of the more interesting areas include the stacks and deck covering. On Oregon it was way more substantial, whereas the Indiana was almost completely open.


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SC462 wrote:
here are a few pictures of the start. Converting BB-3 to BB-1

Just an FYI - we love for modelers to share their photos. However...to avoid cluttering up these CASF threads, we prefer them to post build photos in a new thread, in the Work in Progress forum. I can move these over there if you wish. You can always post here and let others know you've updated that thread.

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Mr. Bean wrote:
have been doing a little research on Americas first "home brewed" capital ships BB-1 thru BB-3. My dilemna, a bit of trouble distinguishing Indiana from Massachusetts. Oregon seems easy to spot from cranes, bow ornament and anchors, whilst photographs of Indiana and Massachusetts seem to be in conflict. Both photos below are labeled "Massachusetts"
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Indi or Mass. 1 bow.jpg
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Indi or Mass. 2 bow.jpg

Does anyone know, or know of an accurate source to determine?

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What makes one of these Massachusetts, and the other Indiana?

Both look identical, save for the painted ornamentation of Athena or Liberty in the Cameo.

Just curious.

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I know that there is a kit of Oregon etc in resin in 1/700 as full hull. Does anyone have FULL HULL plans for Indiana class to make it possible for me to scratch build the lower hull?

Thank you.

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