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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 4:05 am 
SMS BAYERN in harbour

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SMS HELGOLAND during speed trials

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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 7:48 am 
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Hi Peter super shots and they look so realistic.
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 8:01 am 
Hi Dave,

yes - I love photoshop. But what would it look like without the harbor in the background?

We met 2006 in Dortmund - loved your article about the harbor. At the moment we're trying desperately to get invited with the harbor diorama to the railrod exihibiton in Chatham 2008. This would be great - a model slipway on a slipway... :jump_1:

Hope we meet again some day Dave!

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OK i actually thought the second one was an RC model. they look very good indeed. :thumbs_up_1:

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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 4:52 pm 
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Nice "fotos "

I like particulary Bayern in the harbour.

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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 6:53 pm 
Most interesting is the comparision between SMS BAYERN (WW 1) and BISMARCK (WW 2). Remember - same scale...

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:46 pm 
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Hello,

I want to open a thread for the fans of the german WW1 battleship class SMS Bayern/Baden.

I hope I am not allone!!!:)

Here are some informativ links:

http://www.maritimequest.com/warship_di ... bayern.htm

http://www.maritimequest.com/warship_di ... n_data.htm

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNGER_15-45_skc13.htm

model:

http://www.mz-modellbau.net/core/bausaetze/baden.html

Some information will fellow!

Myself is going to start the SMS Baden as a 1/350 waterline Model.

About detail etc. I will inform you!!!

I would be happy If some of you would be interested in this thread!

best regards!


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You're not alone ! I'm also a big fan of those fabulous ships - that's why I've built them all in 1/700 (incl. Sachsen and Wurttemberg). Staying tuned for more.

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Ohhh yea!!!

Not alone!:)

I saw ur ships at the gallary and on modellversium.de!!!

Fantastic work!

This shipclass is the reason, why I start my first complete scratch-construction!

Currently, I work on the first ribs!

Hope, I can upload some pictures soon!


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Be sure to have a look at Bernd Villhauer's SMS Ostfriesland

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 2:39 am 
Hey there,

two weeks ago I stumbled across an extensive set of drawings of Bayern/Baden, being directed there by 'the Dreadnought Project' - see for yourself under their post for SMS Bayern/Baden.

Looking closer they revealed a lot of detail, and after working out that these ships had a fixed frame spacing of 1200 mm, nothing stopped me from enlarging these plans to an exact 1:350 scale (my favourite for warship model). It soon started to dawn on me that in fact the hull was nothing more than a slightly up-scaled König type battleship! Length needed 13.3 mm and width only 1.5 mm.

Well, and as creating a hull is the major challenge when converting (or scratchbuilding) a ship model, I quickly saw the opportunity and off I went! Even before I had the kit available I already had turned my attention to another hurdle: I built a 38 cm main turret from scratch, and a friend of mine already promised me to cast four of these from resin. From the same source drawings of the turret were available.

In the meantime I have already cut up the hull, inserted a 13.5 mm plug from plasticard, split the hull at the keel and added a 1.5 mm shim there. Next made a new main deck from 1 mm plasticardlayered a sheet finely grooved Evergreen nr. 2020 on top of it to simulate the planking. So in fact the big hurdle has been taken within an hour: when you know what to do it's really quite simple!

Currently I'm working on the final details of the turret: the bolts (rivets if you will) on top, shown on a very good photograph of Baden on the same website as above.

Of course I know there is still a long way to go: the battery deck has to be built up next, very similar to the König's but totally different in planform. Then the next boat deck layer and the superstructures: I believe these will have to be made largely from scratch, although many detail parts from the König like guns, searchlights and boats might be used.

Well, I'll keep you posted about my progress and I hope I can make some pictures soon to show what she looks like!

Regards, Maarten


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Awesome model. At first glance, I thought those photos were of the real ship!

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Hi there,

As promised, some pictures from my progressing 1:350 Baden.

The ICM König hull was stretched by 13.5 mm at its widest point, and in the keel a 1.5 mm insert was added to get the required beam. Also, the docking keels were added and the shape of the bow was corrected: from the keel to the stem there is a distinct 'kink' at frame 134, which is totaly missing in the kit.

A new deck was added, laid with Evergreen 2020 v-grooved plate. The deck over the casemates was made as per drawing, and the König casemates were juggled as to make the best fit of them, needing several modifications and one completely built from scratch. Also the shelter deck was made.

I also made a 38cm turret plus guns from scratch, and had a friend of mine casting four copies from resin. Well, now on to building the superstructures, I already made the funnels from Evergreen tubing, and modified the Königs conning tower into the shape for the Baden.

Well, that's for now, once the superstructures are there I'll show you more.

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Happy New Year to you all, with much pleasure in modelling!

I thought it was time for a little progress update on my 1:350 SMS Baden built. Painting and detailing has started in earnest.

Regards, Maarten


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pretty cool and innovative modelmaking! :thumbs_up_1:


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Thanks for the comment, Jim!

The Baden has already progressed much further, I should upload some pictures of the built, before it is all done...

By the way: along the same line I'm considering also the conversion of the König into the Friedrich der Große, a Kaiser class. In fact this will be even much easier, as the hull needs to be shortened instead of lenghtened, the Königs turrets can be used with small mods, and the superstructure is much simpler than that of the Baden.

Happy modelling!
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Anyone has any experience/comments for the WSW 1/700 Bayern and Baden battleships ?
Thanks in advance.


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I built mine in 1997.... pre internet ( easier research!!) and pre custom -made PE


its a good starting point- though I guess probably now superseded by the Combrig quality of kits...

encs a couple of though-the -glass case snapshots....

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I always had WSW's resin offerings high, I shall invest then :)


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Hi,

At 1:700 scale our fellow Dariusz Mazurowski has made great effort to build all four ships of the Bayern class, in varying settings. Check out:

http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html

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