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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 5:13 am 
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I love the Central Coast area off the 101Fwy esp. Santa Barbara to San Luis Obispo, beautiful country. Anyways I'll put parts in mail manana plus some extra stuff you might be able to use for your build.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 6:36 am 
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garyrunnalls wrote:
I love the Central Coast area off the 101Fwy esp. Santa Barbara to San Luis Obispo, beautiful country. Anyways I'll put parts in mail manana plus some extra stuff you might be able to use for your build.


I love the central coast, one of my favorite places here in california. Weather is always nice and the scenery is amazing. Ok sounds good! I'll be sure to post pictures when it comes in and the build is nearly done. I appreciate it alot!

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:05 pm 
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You should get parts soon, let me know if you get them. Thanks


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garyrunnalls wrote:
You should get parts soon, let me know if you get them. Thanks



I got them thanks! Already working on making them work

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Very cool, and I'm sure you'll do it well. I love the measure 33- 31 dazzle paint jobs of WW2 USN ships myself, although not easy. Glad ya got the parts.


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I'll do my best, not nearly as good as most on here, but I enjoy it. I have multiple USN ships in dazzle camo. It's a challange but it's rewarding to do. Thanks again for the parts!

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Has anyone here ever built the HP 1/700 Maryland 1944 or Colorado 1944?

Just wondering if the bulges on either are correct.

I'm also wondering how much work, other than reducing the AA suite, would be required to backdate either kit to 1942 fit.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 2:39 pm 
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what time period of 1942?
Colorado (BB-45) as configured on 8 November 1942 http://www.navsource.org/archives/01/014551.jpg
Maryland (BB-46) 8 November 1942 http://www.navsource.org/archives/01/014640b.jpg
both ships will need cutdown mainmasts for November 42.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 4:23 pm 
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Haijun watcher wrote:
Has anyone here ever built the HP 1/700 Maryland 1944 or Colorado 1944?

Just wondering if the bulges on either are correct.

I'm also wondering how much work, other than reducing the AA suite, would be required to backdate either kit to 1942 fit.

I'm working on a Colorado 1944 kit, a slow go. I made a thread in the "Picture Post-Works in Progress" section. There is also a very good Maryland 1945 (Trumpeter) build in there, too. The bulges are not correct. They are too wide. Trumpeter used the same hull parts for all 5 rebuilt ships, should've been for just the Tennessee, California and West Virginia.
If Trumpeter ever decides to make these kits in 1/350, I hope they make the correct size of the bulges for the respective ship.


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I'm working on a Colorado 1944 kit, a slow go. I made a thread in the "Picture Post-Works in Progress" section. There is also a very good Maryland 1945 (Trumpeter) build in there, too.


Bioshock,
I'm already well aware of the faults of the Trumpeter Colorado class kits, but I was only referring to the HP kits.

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I was looking at early 1942.

I already made an early 1942 Colorado using the Trumpeter Maryland 1941 kit with modified bulges per Sean F.'s instructions.

I saw a couple of HP 1944 Colorado class kits on Ebay but was wondering if the HP Maryland 1944 kit was easily convertible to the early 1942 version.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:24 pm 
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Haijun watcher wrote:
Bioshock,
I'm already well aware of the faults of the Trumpeter Colorado class kits, but I was only referring to the HP kits.

Go here. In my opinion, Trumpeter used their molds.
http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=28745


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Haijun watcher, how early 1942, maybe February?
http://www.navsource.org/archives/01/014606.jpg Visible are the splinter shields on her 5"/25 mounts. She still carries 5"/51 guns in casemates.
http://www.navsource.org/archives/01/014659.jpg


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bioshock73 wrote:
Haijun watcher wrote:
Bioshock,
I'm already well aware of the faults of the Trumpeter Colorado class kits, but I was only referring to the HP kits.

Go here. In my opinion, Trumpeter used their molds.
http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=28745


That incorrect bulge sure looks the same, but the Trumpeter kit definitely has a finer quality of detail on both hull and deck. And the main gun turrets have a much better shape in the Trumpeter kit.

So, if you want to start with the HP kit, you'll have to saw/sand/grind the bulges if you want to correct them, and try to get them symmetrical and smooth enough to satisfy yourself.

Personally, I'd much rather re-work the Trumpeter hulls that to grind off that much resin (and make it come out neat in the end). And the HP kits would cost you about twice as much.

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Thanks to all for your replies.

I am beginning to think that using the Loose Cannon 1/700 Colorado 1942 maybe the best bet for building a Feb. to June 1942 Maryland.

As I said, I already built the Trumpeter 1941 Maryland kit as Colorado 1942 and tapered the bulge per Sean's advice, but I feel I could have done a better job. That's why I prefer to have a kit with correct bulges already.

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Not many pictures of the Loose Cannon Colorado on-line, but from what I see it looks like it has the same oversized bulges as HP and Trumpeter, but without the ribbing (waste drain spouts?) present on those two kits. Anyone who actually has the Loose Cannon Colorado, please feel free to correct me if this is not true.

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What about the Midship Models' 1/700 Colorado 1941? There's one on EBay for over $150 US dollars/Over 200 Canadian dollars! :Mad_6:

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Haijun watcher wrote:
What about the Midship Models' 1/700 Colorado 1941? There's one on EBay for over $150 US dollars/Over 200 Canadian dollars! :Mad_6:


While the 1/700 1941 USS Colorado is still listed on the plastic kit list, the kit on EBay is most certainly the resin kit marketed under the Midship logo when they were still "in business". The Trumpeter kit is no longer is listed by Stevens as far as I can tell. My guess is that the kit list should be revised to delete her unless................?


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Does it matter if Midships is out of business?

As long as one can find kits with the Midships brand kits at model shows or on EBay, perhaps their Colorado class kits should stay on the list, although they are getting rarer by the year.

The same goes for Naval Works kits of this class, which are also OOP but can still be found on EBay.

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I referred only to the 1941 Trumpeter 1/700 plastic kit that was announced a long time ago and is still carried on the upcoming plastic ship kit releases on this forum. IMHO this kit is a Trumpeter "never will be" having been dropped a while ago by the Steven's Hobby Trumpeter kit listing. Apologies to all the resin kit builders.


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Steve wrote:
I referred only to the 1941 Trumpeter 1/700 plastic kit that was announced a long time ago and is still carried on the upcoming plastic ship kit releases on this forum. IMHO this kit is a Trumpeter "never will be" having been dropped a while ago by the Steven's Hobby Trumpeter kit listing. Apologies to all the resin kit builders.


I always thought that was an odd listing, Colorado not being at Pearl on 12/7 and all. However, given the part break-down, the extra pair of 5"/51s each kit comes with, and the way you have to open up holes in the aft deck for the 3"/1.1" tubs, it seems to me that the kit designers gave some thought to a 1930s, maybe even 1920s fit. Take, say, the Tennessee kit (which is already missing the superstructure 3" tubs), package it with a new midship deck that lacks splinter shields, a pair of SOC Seagulls in lieu of Kingfishers, and you have a 1938 Tennessee kit to sell.

Back for a moment to where this conversation was going: A Midship Models 1941 Colorado won't help with the bulge issue, as it doesn't have any. You'd be just as well served (and save money) by taking a Trumpeter '41 West Virginia kit and adding bulges to it. Even if a Trumpeter 1941 Colorado were ever released (and was accurate), was never active in '41 with a bulged hull; and if they released her in a bulged '42 fit, they'd almost certainly just use the same overbulged hull rather than make a new one.

Unless there's another kit out there that we haven't discussed yet, your choices for a '42 Colorado are as follows:
Reshape the bulge on an overbulged Trumpeter, HP, or Loose Cannon kit.
Add a bulge to an unbulged Trumpeter or Midship kit.
Live with the overbulged Trumpeter, HP, or Loose Cannon kit.

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