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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 10:32 pm 
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I think it looks kind of neat with the tri-pod masts. There's a project for you. :cool_2:


I like how it looks too. I think I'll build her like this and, together with two South Dakota (BB-49 type) class ships, make her part of 'what if' battleship division six with green forward turret tops. I'm thinking of doing:

South Dakota BB-49 - Green, Green, Red
Washington BB-47 - Green, Green, White
Indiana BB-50 - Green, Green, Blue

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:12 am 
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Jeff Sharp wrote:
And a nice view of the spotting rifle on turret #4.

http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/f87558239ff4789b_large


That's definitely a spotting rifle; but the gun on turret 3 in the other photo looks quite different from that one. Would they have two completely different types of spotting rifles on the same ship at the same time? Just really curious about this thing! :)

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ArizonaBB39 wrote:
Here's a 'what if' that I drew up of the Washington had she been completed. I was curious how a Colorado class ship would have looked with tripod masts.


If you want another, the Tennessee's and Colorado's were originally considered for tower rebuilds ala the New Mexico's but the tower bridges were considered to heavy thus the retention of the cage masts until the wartime rebuilds. Always rather liked those tower superstructures.

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Come to think of it...a tri-pod mast setup would likely have been superior for the Tennessee/Colorado/SoDak classes...I don't think I ever read anything about the tri-pods having swaying/stability issues with main battery fire like the cage masts did.


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the Tennessee/Colorado/SoDak classes forward cagemast won't sway but the aft mast would.


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DavidP wrote:
the Tennessee/Colorado/SoDak classes forward cagemast won't sway but the aft mast would.


Alright, yeah that's what I had heard. I knew the initial fits of the Nevada and Pennsylvania's would sway both fore and aft, but wasn't sure about the Big 5


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Jeff Sharp wrote:
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So who is going to contact Navsource and the Navy History page to tell them? :heh:


My vote is that Dick J should get the honors. After all, he was the one that raised the red flag in the first place.

Now done at NHHC.


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California 12/7/41 (or shortly thereafter). Photo 80G33948, from NARA II. Great detail shot.
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MartinJQuinn wrote:
California 12/7/41 (or shortly thereafter). Photo 80G33948, from NARA II. Great detail shot.

Martin - Any chance there is one like this for the Tennessee bridge? - Steve G.


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Steve wrote:
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California 12/7/41 (or shortly thereafter). Photo 80G33948, from NARA II. Great detail shot.

Martin - Any chance there is one like this for the Tennessee bridge? - Steve G.


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I may sound funny but only recently I notice that very early in her career USS Tennessee had an extra searchlight platform on her second funnel. Its almost identical to the British "coffee box" styled search light platforms that was used during and after WWI.
I was unable to find pictures of the same platform on USS California, so Im guessing she never had one. So it seems USS Tennessee was the only one from the Big 5 that had that structure on her second funnel and it seems she had it till seaplanes and seaplanes handling equipment polluted her deck.

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Link to full-rez version of that shot of Tenny in Vancouver: http://searcharchives.vancouver.ca/uplo ... 770-90.jpg

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Did the USS Tennessee and USS Colorado class had different cranes ? Judging from this famous 1941 picture the USS West Virginia has a slight different shaped cranes.
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Came across this pic the other day...USS West Virginia, after refit.


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I'm putting the finishing touches on my late '41 TN, CA, and WV builds, and decided to mount the admiral's flags on them, as appropriate. Trying to find out how many stars go on each one, but so far coming up empty on names and ranks of the admirals in question. I'd assume 2 star Rear Admiral flags on just Tennessee and West Virginia as BatDiv 2 and 4 flagships, but does anyone know more specifics?

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Hello Sean,

Would you please post pictures of your Maryland here as well?

It would be a great help to me and others here if you could please post close up pictures of the corrected bulges of your Maryland/Colorado build we discussed earlier in the other thread on the "Big 5" in their rebuilt configurations.

If I can't duplicate the corrected bulges, I am mulling either building my Trumpeter Maryland 1941 kit either full hull or still going waterline but correcting the hull to push the oversize bulges further to make it look like the West Virginia kit without the bulges, thus making a pre-bulge Maryland/Colorado.

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HvyCgn9 wrote:
Came across this pic the other day...USS West Virginia, after refit.


I can't help myself...the best looking warship. Ever.

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SeanF wrote:
I'm putting the finishing touches on my late '41 TN, CA, and WV builds, and decided to mount the admiral's flags on them, as appropriate. Trying to find out how many stars go on each one, but so far coming up empty on names and ranks of the admirals in question. I'd assume 2 star Rear Admiral flags on just Tennessee and West Virginia as BatDiv 2 and 4 flagships, but does anyone know more specifics?

- Sean F.


Hi Sean,

TN: Flagship of the BatDiv 2, RADM David W. Bagley
CA: Flagship of the Battle Force, VADM William S. Pye
WV: No particular role.

Despite one can find info that WV served as a flagship for the Commander, Battleships, Battle Force RADM Walter S. Anderson (moreover, RADM Anderson had also an additional duty as the Commander, BatDiv 4), more sources are stating that the Maryland actually flew the RADM Anderson's flag (he returned to the MD during the PH raid from ashore).

By the way, I just found an interesting story in the "Daugters of Infamy" book - the Admiral's flags were supposedly cut away during the PH attack in order to prevent Japanese pilots to specifically attack the flagships.

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Hi all,

Would it be reasonable to assume that the AA fit and secondary armament of the 1941 pre-bulge Colorado and Maryland were identical to West Virginia's December 1941 fit?

Just wondering because I might have to totally remove the bulges of my Trumpeter Maryland kit , and make it into a pre-bulge 1941 WeeVee, if my attempt to apply SeanF's "bulge-thinning technique", mentioned in the other rebuilt Big5 thread, doesn't work.

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Looking for accurate dimensions for a deck catapult USS California (BB-44)

Have request to design this for 3D-printing in different scales.

Please just need 2d drawing with dimensions.

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