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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:14 pm 
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Imperial Russian Navy Gangut had a long and eventful career. Arguably the ships of the class did not look specific when commissioned but had the heaviest projectile in the world for the guns of its caliber. It also had its unique armor protection designed by Russian engineers. It was modernized just in time before the WWII to receive new equipment and superstructure which created its strikingly unique and truly iconic look of Soviet battleship. Renamed "Oktyabrskaya revolutsiya" (Russian: Октябрьская революция: October Revolution) and its sister-ship Marat , former Petropavlovsk played crucial role in defending the city of Leningrad against the German effort.
"Parisian Commune" (former Sevastopol) fought at Black Sea defending the city of Sevastopol.
It proved its sturdy construction and battle worthiness when continued to fight despite heavy hits. Marat was hit by two "Fritz" bombs and broken in two, but stayed afloat and continued to fire its main 12 in caliber on enemy positions.
"Oktyabrskaya revolutsiya" was in active service up until 1957 so there is more then enough detailed photographs on her, which, thanks to the legacy of Soviet state, are all in public domain.
There is only small scale model exists in the market today which is inaccurate and it took a real love of the modeler to the graceful lines of the ship to recreate it using that kit.
There are many skillful people on this forum who could bring bring up the beauty of those magnificent ships.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:23 pm 
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To ensure a trouble-free picture posting process please use either Method 1 or Method 2 listed in this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1261

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Thanks! The pictures were too big for an attachment . I am going to experiment with picture editor to make them smaller and pass the limitation. :thumbs_up_1:


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:23 pm 
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 4:35 am 
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Im a huge fan of these ships and a good thread on them is long overdue IMHO. :woo_hoo: :cool_1:

I picked up a book on them recently called " Famous Warships monographs number one The Russian Battleships Sevastopol class" by Maciej S.Sobanski
Crammed with excellent photographs,colour plans,histories of each ship in the class AND THREE double sided large fold out black and white profiles and plans.

The ISBN number is 83-915653-2-7 and is published by "Okrety Wojenne"

Well worth tracking down,I paid £25 for mine at a model show,was the last copy and I was lucky to get it on the day... :thumbs_up_1: .

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Hello Mermaid!


You are both right and slightly wrong.... :big_grin:

Have a look at the Gangut class kit review we did some years ago:

http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/sh ... nguts.html



The kit of Pariz Komun by Combrig.. there is really not very much right about that....

The kit by HP Models of Okt Rev is dimensionally fundamentally ok..--but is lacking in a number of areas...( deck!!)

I did actually build the kit--with considerable effort--using the aforementioned book...

full build-up process is described in this link right here at Modelwarships.com!

http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/sh ... ildup.html

The end result is worthwhile!

I also commissioned some custom PE for the cranes-

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-of which I have a few frets left .... should you wish to tackle the HP kit or indeed scratch build the ship

some more recent pictures to compliment the build article are here as well

http://www.finewaterline.com/pages/gall ... oktrev.htm


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The vexed deck question--with the cross planking strips I have repeatedly dealt with ..

on Imp Mariya

http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/sh ... 0-com.html

and also on Andrei Parvo

http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/sh ... ildup.html

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:02 am 
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Yes, Mr. Baumann, actually it was your work that I mentioned as a labor of love, and very well done despite the kits themselves not being very good.


The ships surely deserve a better detailed representation. May be a kit from Dragon at 1:350.


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There are many books in Russian containing plans and photographs available to see on http://www.armourbook.com forum (one needs to register)
Линейные корабли типа "Марат" by A. Vasiliev especially good with rare pictures.
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And it is a good sign that more detailed books coming.
Thanks to ZALADIS for a tip! I shall definitely have a look for the Okrety publication. :thumbs_up_1:


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Modelist Alexi have reduced the paper plans of linkor Sevastopol (Parisian Kommune) to 1:350 and is cutting the ship from styrene... http://vfl.ru/fotos/c7dd1fa8100260.html

http://karopka.ru/forum/forum190/topic9352/?PAGEN_1=5

He is planning to build all four battleships of the class in 1:350. :thumbs_up_1:


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:47 pm 
Mermaid:

I give credit to Alexi. The project looks very complicated. Thanks for posting. I think the Sevastopol class (modernized) is the most interesting class of battleships. Marat is the only ship I've built twice.


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Can anyone describe how good (or bad) the retooled Combrig Gangut is? I know originally the kit was quite flawed (but so was their Ryurik II). Is it much better now? It appears to include PE which the original didn't.

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drdoom1337 wrote:
Can anyone describe how good (or bad) the retooled Combrig Gangut is? I know originally the kit was quite flawed (but so was their Ryurik II). Is it much better now? It appears to include PE which the original didn't.
The new kit is really excellent; I made a side by side comparison with the old release as soon as it arrived, and the differences in casting quality, detail, and (eyeball verification only!) fidelity to scale are light years apart.

My only complaint is that there is a small casting flaw near the stern that almost looks like mold mis-alignment. A few swipes with sandpaper should take care of it, though.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:14 am 
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Great News!

Zvezda is going to issue all Sevastopol class as build and also as at WWII.

Their representative speaks in russian forum about it, telling that after Sevastopol 1914 others will follow in different times.

He says that 8 ships are planned. Fantastic!

http://www.zvezda.org.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1134


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:40 am 
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Some pictures of Marat in different years from tsushima.su


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:19 pm 
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Some Gangut (October Revolution) battleship from tsushima.su


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Some Sevastopol (Parisian Commune) battleship photos from tsushima.su


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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 7:29 am 
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First pictures of 1/350 hull parts of the coming models from Zvezda appeared at scalemodels forum.

The upper section of the bow is constructed as replaceable to accommodate different bows of Marat, Parizian Commune and October Revolution in propective Zvezda's offerings.


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Thats is an excellent photo of ther crane !!!!!

my envy--

alas it was not available to me when I built my
Oktrev....

http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/sh ... ildup.html

and more recent images
http://www.finewaterline.com/pages/gall ... oktrev.htm


download/file.php?id=46916&mode=view


If anyone still has a 1/700 version they wish to build...

Then I do still have some PE frets left that can be bought...

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Guys,

What an intriguing class of battleships! I see Zvesda is coming out with a 1/350 Sevastopol. Would anyone know what period the model depicts? I would prefer WW II to fit into the genre of my other models but I'm open to suggestion.

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This one will be for 1914, Paul. Next they plan to release one in WWII fit. It is undecided which one yet.


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Rare footage of Gangut class battleships in action in WWII and also in WWI

never seen before, really good film :smallsmile:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-xo0d4T ... _embedded#!


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