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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:32 am 
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So... what's the BEST choice for a Bismarck kit in 350th Tamiya, Revell Platinum, Academy???


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:27 am 
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So... what's the BEST choice for a Bismarck kit in 350th Tamiya, Revell Platinum, Academy???

Revell, hands down.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:37 am 
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I would go with the Revell Platinum. Although it's a lot more expensive, it does come with a very extensive PE set, and wooden deck. The basic kit used to retail for just under $100 (CDN). You might want to investigate basic kit and other PE choices for lower price.
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Currently building Revell 1/350 Bismarck. Years ago in this thread I saw where Olaf Held stated that the Boot-topping width on 1/350 DKM Battleships was 7mm. How far down should the top of the Boot-topping be from the main deck on Bismarck?


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I have a question about Bismarck and depth charge racks.

The kit has them (on the stern), the Pontos detail set deletes them entirely. I can't find any photo evidence for/against them. Anybody know the truth of the matter?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:46 pm 
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warship profile 18 does not list depth charges in the armament. AOTS does not list depth charges in the armament


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If it's the Bismarck.
See stern starbord side.
Depth charge rack?


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 1:11 pm 
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If it's the Bismarck.
See stern starbord side.
Depth charge rack?


While it is the Bismarck, that would be a VERY strange looking DC rack.

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As I recall, the "racks" were just a pair or trio of single-charge roll-off racks, side by side along the deck edge. Their function wasn't to attack submarines, but to produce fake shell splashes to throw off the enemy's aim.

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As I recall, the "racks" were just a pair or trio of single-charge roll-off racks, side by side along the deck edge. Their function wasn't to attack submarines, but to produce fake shell splashes to throw off the enemy's aim.


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I think, that is doubtful. It was very difficult to coordinate the explosions of the charges with the fall of projectiles. The shells splashes are diferent (much more cinetic energy than explosive, because this, they were more tall and slim). The attacker had clocks with the exact moment of the fall, it could not be excluded that the shells splashes were dyed. Only six fake splashes were not very useful.

I think, instead, that a few charges could be useful in restricted waters to confuse or deter an attacking submarine.The noise of the explosions would make it difficult to a submerged submarine to use the hydrophones. And the captain of the submarine could overestimate the escort group.


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Before Operation Rheinübung, two WBD depth charge racks were placed on Bismarcks Stern.
Being a battleship, they weren't going to be very effective against Submarines, but could still be used to force a sub to dive while the ship escapes.
There are also accounts of them being used to confuse enemy gunners with extra splashes.
Prinz Eugen and Adm Hipper also had them as well as other capital ships.

As with anything in War, things change, different things are tried and some things work well while others don't.

Even with stop watches and calculations, a few seconds of hesitation might mean the difference between success or failure. That was the whole purpose of camouflage and look at the effort that was spent on it.

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Who makes the best “injection molded” 1/700 Bismarck & Tirpitz kits? I see there are several out there now.....

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Thomas E. Johnson wrote:
Who makes the best “injection molded” 1/700 Bismarck & Tirpitz kits? I see there are several out there now.....


I'll let you know after I get my Flyhawk Bismarck. I already have in injection molded plastic, the Old and new Aoshima, Pitroad/Trumpeter, Dragon, and Matchbox. I have the Samek Bismarck and Tirpitz resin kits also.

I'm pretty sure Flyhawk will be the best so far.

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Thomas E. Johnson wrote:
Who makes the best “injection molded” 1/700 Bismarck & Tirpitz kits? I see there are several out there now.....


I'll let you know after I get my Flyhawk Bismarck. I already have in injection molded plastic, the Old and new Aoshima, Pitroad/Trumpeter, Dragon, and Matchbox. I have the Samek Bismarck and Tirpitz resin kits also.

I'm pretty sure Flyhawk will be the best so far.


Thanks, please do inform us as to your conclusions. :thumbs_up_1:

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During Rheinubung, Bismarck flew the Nazi Naval Ensign from the mainmast, but at the mast top there was a smaller, lighter flag. From a distance it looked mostly white. Was that the Admiral's flag?
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During Rheinubung, Bismarck flew the Nazi Naval Ensign from the mainmast, but at the mast top there was a smaller, lighter flag. From a distance it looked mostly white. Was that the Admiral's flag?
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Yes, it is.

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Captain Morgan wrote:
Thomas E. Johnson wrote:
Who makes the best “injection molded” 1/700 Bismarck & Tirpitz kits? I see there are several out there now.....


I'll let you know after I get my Flyhawk Bismarck. I already have in injection molded plastic, the Old and new Aoshima, Pitroad/Trumpeter, Dragon, and Matchbox. I have the Samek Bismarck and Tirpitz resin kits also.

I'm pretty sure Flyhawk will be the best so far.


The only plastic Tirpitz is Revell. The Tirpitz of other brands, are badly modified Bismarck.

Some differences do not reflected usually in those models are:

- Bow
- Ventilation trunks , in special at Caesar and Bruno barbettes
- Admiral Bridge
- Some levels of the Tower-mast
- Night telemeters
- Funnel rear was semicircular in Tirpitz and polygonal in Bismarck, also ventilation trunks and funnel cranes were differents


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Thomas E. Johnson wrote:
Who makes the best “injection molded” 1/700 Bismarck & Tirpitz kits? I see there are several out there now.....

I'm just finishing up my Bismarck from Flyhawk - it is incredible! I bought the "Deluxe" kit from a trusted Chinese vendor and it cost only CDN $65, shipping inc. Comes with 8 frets of PE, and turned brass barrels for primary and secondary armaments, and masts and main yards. Basic plastic kit is $35 - $40 making it compatible with most other brands - except that it is much, much more detailed and accurate. I can compare it with Dragon's Bismarck ("Sink the Bismarck" version), which I thought was excellent, but Flyhawk's completely beats it. Surface detail on the decks is more complete and accurate as is all ports, windows, doors, railings, piping and conduits on bulkheads. Flyhawk's Bismarck is even more accurate and detailed (even without help from PE) than any of the 1/350, or even, 1/200 scale Bismarcks on the market. Critics will complain about the higher parts count - but I just consider them wimps! :big_grin:
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