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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 1:17 pm 
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On a serious note (Ha!):

I have seen a photo where Alaska has her name in white lettering on the stern, midway to the W/L, but no hull numbers. I have seen Guam with a tiny "2" on the bow but no hull numbers on Alaska. It may have been so small as to not be apparent in the photos? Was Alaska numberless with the idea that none stood for one? If it had a number it was the "other one".

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 11:13 am 
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To answer my own question about the hull numbering, Alaska in the Ken Kracht photo displayed earlier does show a white short vertical stripe which must be the hull number! A bit hilarious s the APA's etc had white numbers bow and stern 8' high!

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 11:37 am 
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The Camden photos during the inclining experiment clearly show Alaska's "1" on the bow in the standard 24" size we see on most wartime ships. It's easier to make out on the starboard side as it contrasts well with the black stripe on the forward hull, but it's also visible against the 5-L on the port side in other photos if you look closely. As you note, the "1" is still present into 1945 after the ship paints into Measure 22.

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I have seen port side photos around that time where it's not clearly identifiable. Of course most of the wartime photos, especially at a distance are quite poor in resolution. At ant rate I'll add them to my ship.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:20 pm 
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Well I decided to post an update of my USS Alaska, I still have quite a bit of detailing to go.
I mentioned in a previous post about an idea I had for the USS Hawaii, converting her number one turret to a 16 inch triple, having had a lot of time to think about it while I work on the Alaska I’ve decided to go one step further and turn her into a true monster cruiser killer. I’m adding the 16 inch and I’m moving the 12 inch to the sturn super firing over her current rear turret along with this I’m thinking of upgrading her bridge to something more like the Iowa class battleships.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 2:04 pm 
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Your Alaska looks very nice indeed! I updated mine extensively after I got into 3D printing. It is a well proportioned and beautiful warship. Though sometimes denigrated they were by the time they were in service just as valuable as an Iowa as a fast carrier escort. Ships varied in detail and equipment during their careers, yours shows the post shakedown modifications to the bridge area. One interesting thing about these ships seems to be the lack of 20 mm ready boxes, I only found two abeam the stack. The use of centerline 5" mounts and the very open sky arcs made the secondary battery quite effective. Though there were only two Mk 37 directors, both on centerline, the Mk51 directors could also be used in a pinch.

As to a tripple 16" MK 7 installation forward, the hull is too fine at this point to allow any side protection and sufficient hull girder strength because of the large structural penetration. This was always a problem in design of the big gun ships where speed was desired, even the Iowa's.

You might check as to the presence of the 5" mount captains blast hoods. Because of the spacing of the mounts these may not have been fitted, though they were easily removed or added with just several bolts.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2022 11:54 pm 
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Hi everyone
I have a question regarding the Alaska. Just behind the funnel there is a piece of equipment which sits on it's own dedicated pole-like structure. There is also one up front on the top platform. What is it and if possible, does anyone know where can I find a 1/350 version of this piece?
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Is it: < main battery director mark 38 >

Several 1/350 PE sets contain the fire control radar mark 8. One is < Tom's Model Works > #3505 US NAVAL RADARS

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:01 am 
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Michael Potter wrote:
Is it: < main battery director mark 38 >

Several 1/350 PE sets contain the fire control radar mark 8. One is < Tom's Model Works > #3505 US NAVAL RADARS


Thank you so very much - you are awesome! It is exactly what I needed to know. That PE set is also just what I needed - so an even bigger thanks again for that. I bought a set to, so that is my project saved. :woo_hoo:


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Can someone tell me what these parts are and what color they are?


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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2022 5:23 pm 
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They are tanks of some sort. Keith Bender explained it to me once, but of course I forgot. He painted his green here:

http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... 14-046.htm

But I've also seen them painted with the bottom 1/2 black and the top 1/2 painted different colors. The colors, IIRC, designates what is inside.

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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2022 6:13 pm 
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I believe green indicates argon gas, used in welding. Not positive, though.


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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2022 8:09 pm 
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This may help. USS Alaska CB-1:
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Cylinders on USS Missouri BB-63 have been identified as acetylene and oxygen used for welding.

On Alaska, the cylinders appear to be tall, slender steel "T" cylinders, which are 55 inches (140 cm) tall by 9.25 inches (23.5 cm) in diameter. Missouri's oxygen cylinders were also probably "T" cylinders. But her acetylene cylinders were squat and fat, probably "WK" cylinders or similar, which are 39 inches (99 cm) tall by 12.4 inches (31.5 cm) in diameter.

Here are the colors which indicate the type of gas contained by the cylinder. When looking at photos of the cylinders in their racks, try not to confuse the retaining straps holding the tanks in the racks for colored stripes painted on the cylinders.
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Below are cylinders on USS Missouri BB-63 and USS Hazelwood DD-531. Note the two types visible on Missouri:
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2022 11:42 am 
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Wow! Thanks everyone for the info and the pictures.

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Wow! I loves this site, I learn something new every day.


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Anyone make aftermarket 3D printed anchors appropriate for this class? Manage to lose one to the "tile monster" (the 1st cousin to the better known "carpet monster").

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https://www.model-monkey.com/product-pa ... tleships-1
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DavidP wrote:
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Thanks David. I knew he made anchors, but didn't read the "fine print"!

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HobbyBoss would have you add the small antenna and platform seen in the instructions below to the face of the top level of the forward superstructure. Yet, I can’t seem to find that in pictures of Alaska during her 2nd shakedown cruise. I’m thinking I should leave it off. Anyone know for sure when it was added?
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