The Ship Model Forum

The Ship Modelers Source
It is currently Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:13 pm

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 3173 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 144, 145, 146, 147, 148, 149, 150 ... 159  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:33 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2005 10:56 am
Posts: 8561
Location: New York City
There is some discussion on the J-ships board leaning towards the photo having been taken during a Feb 22, 1944 transport mission.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:24 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Aug 18, 2015 12:06 pm
Posts: 16
Location: Germany
Dan K wrote:
There is some discussion on the J-ships board leaning towards the photo having been taken during a Feb 22, 1944 transport mission.


As I stated in some FB Groups, you can see the Type 21 Radar on the Main Rangefinder.
This Refit was done on September 3th 1942. And the white Top of the Main Rangefinder was repainted to grey at the end of 1943 (Sources: Skulskis Battleships Yamato and Musashi, and different pictures in some of my collected books and maganzines).
So this picture was taken between Early September 1942 and December 1943.

The discussion on the J-ships board about "Feb 22 1944" is obsolete!

Some interesting things about this new picture:
The forward main Turrets and the forward 15,5cm Turret (No.1) are aligned together with the 10m Rangefinder of the aft tower (lightly to starboard).
The No.2 and No.4 15,5 cm Turrets and the three port 12,7cm High Angle Twin Guns are aligned into one direction.

Imho I think that they made some Gunnery Practice (without shooting) against aircrafts, or some tests. For example: Main Rangefinder is out of action; switch to second Rangefinder.

Another interesting part is, that you can see two little Clouds of smoke in front of the Bow. Perhaps another indication of a simulated Attack by Aircrafts.

Just my 2 Cents!

Christian van der Sanden


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:21 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2005 10:56 am
Posts: 8561
Location: New York City
Well, the photo is taken from an aircraft.

Quote:
The discussion on the J-ships board about "Feb 22 1944" is obsolete!


I don't know about that. She is clearly loaded with freight midships aft the 15.5cm mount and aft. The midships freight could be automotive in nature.

"15 February 1944:
At 1225, arrives at Yokosuka. That evening MUSASHI commences embarkation of ammunition, provisions and fuel for the garrison of Palau. Some 40 Isuzu and Nissan trucks are embarked on the afterdeck. Crated 60-kg and 250-kg aerial bombs and torpedoes intended for the Palau-based 751st NAG, as well as boxes of 12.7-mm AA ammunition are loaded to the foredeck. Gasoline drums are accommodated on the middle deck. The transfer of cargo continues until 24 February.

22 February 1944:
Yokosuka. MUSASHI embarks the 300-strong IJN 87th AA Defense Unit, a 100-strong Army unit and other personnel, including some IJN staff officers destined for reassignment to Palau.:"


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:34 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2005 10:56 am
Posts: 8561
Location: New York City
I fiddled with the contrast and lightness:


Attachments:
Musashi, Feb 22, 1944 transport mission sm.jpg
Musashi, Feb 22, 1944 transport mission sm.jpg [ 371.81 KiB | Viewed 8753 times ]
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:51 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:45 am
Posts: 153
amazing new find!!! :woo_hoo:

is it just me or are the main guns painted in a darker colour than the turret? the after guns look really dark vs the turret. it could be just shading though.....


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:53 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:54 pm
Posts: 2
Dan K wrote:
I fiddled with the contrast and lightness:


If this is in fact the February 1944 transport mission, that would seem to date between 22-29 February, btw 1944 was a leap year.


-David


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:59 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:52 am
Posts: 134
Location: Corinth, MS
cplchanb wrote:
amazing new find!!! :woo_hoo:

is it just me or are the main guns painted in a darker colour than the turret? the after guns look really dark vs the turret. it could be just shading though.....

I agree...though the forward guns are the same shade as their turrets, so I think it might just be shading.

_________________
Image
MS State Guard, 08 March 2014 - 28 January 2023


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2019 11:11 am 
If you ask me, the #3 main turret's (visible) barrel is definitely black or very, very dark grey. What if that turret was fitted with new barrel(s), not yet painted?


Top
  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2019 9:17 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2005 10:56 am
Posts: 8561
Location: New York City
Lars Ahlberg has been in touch with the Yamato Museum, and they are of the opinion that the photo more likely taken in January, 1943.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 8:57 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:33 pm
Posts: 296
Location: The Savo Island
Dan K wrote:
Lars Ahlberg has been in touch with the Yamato Museum, and they are of the opinion that the photo more likely taken in January, 1943.

yea, probably taken after 22nd of jan.´43. She perfomed a practice with torpedoe planes, but the Museum is not fully sure of the exact date of the shot, yet. Suppose the black colored stufs are provisions, these might have been offloaded when arrriving on the 22nd and the deck ought to be empty. My assumption is Musahi is quite near to the port, then, toepedoe planes came flying over, for the practice. If so, the pic must have been taken on the very day of 22nd.


cheers,


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 7:27 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:00 am
Posts: 19
Hi sailors,

I am currently finishing a Yamato model project. I am currently working on the stern and was wondering where the stern anchor(s) of the Yamato was (were)?

I always though she had only one anchor on port below the flight deckt at the stern. That's how it is amongst others on pics of the Yamato museum in Kure. However, while investigating, I saw a lot of models who had the stern anchor only starboard or even on both sides. I could't find historical pictures from the starboard stern side of the Yamato (anybody?).

Attachment:
Yamato-stern-kure-museum.jpg
Yamato-stern-kure-museum.jpg [ 63.74 KiB | Viewed 12323 times ]


Anybody knows how it was and what is correct?

Would really help me to finish my project. Thanks guys,

Jack


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 8:05 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2005 10:56 am
Posts: 8561
Location: New York City
There is a photo of Yamato at anchor at Truk in 1943 taken from her aft starboard quarter. I know its in the KMM book. Looks like there might be something there. Will try to remember to scan it.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 12:13 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Aug 18, 2015 12:06 pm
Posts: 16
Location: Germany
JackSix wrote:
Hi sailors,

I am currently finishing a Yamato model project. I am currently working on the stern and was wondering where the stern anchor(s) of the Yamato was (were)?

I always though she had only one anchor on port below the flight deckt at the stern. That's how it is amongst others on pics of the Yamato museum in Kure. However, while investigating, I saw a lot of models who had the stern anchor only starboard or even on both sides. I could't find historical pictures from the starboard stern side of the Yamato (anybody?).

Attachment:
Yamato-stern-kure-museum.jpg


Anybody knows how it was and what is correct?

Would really help me to finish my project. Thanks guys,

Jack


Super Illustration Battleship Yamato NO. 745
Page 27:
"Stern anchors
The stern anchors are about half the size of the main anchor. On the starboard is a medium anchor and one of the port is a little smaller"

And in Skulskis actual book there are anchors on both sides of the stern, too!

Chris


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:55 pm 
Recently I am studying the shape of Musashi's crew ready room (兵员待机室) which is allegedly different from Yamato's. By editing the contrast of the screenshot of "Musashi expedition" , I think we could see a cube under the flag deck. It should be the crew ready room (兵员待机室). Let's talk about the details!


[img]https://twitter.com/Donginging/status/1162670920055443456?s=20/img]


Top
  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 5:37 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:12 pm
Posts: 1321
Location: Up The Street From Sam Wilson's House
What’s the best 1/700 Yamato kit, preferably as she was commissioned in late 1941/early 1942?

_________________
Thomas E. Johnson

http://www.youtube.com/user/ThomasEJohnson


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:53 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 1:21 pm
Posts: 3374
Location: equidistant to everywhere
vds242 wrote:
JackSix wrote:
Hi sailors,

I am currently finishing a Yamato model project. I am currently working on the stern and was wondering where the stern anchor(s) of the Yamato was (were)?

I always though she had only one anchor on port below the flight deckt at the stern. That's how it is amongst others on pics of the Yamato museum in Kure. However, while investigating, I saw a lot of models who had the stern anchor only starboard or even on both sides. I could't find historical pictures from the starboard stern side of the Yamato (anybody?).

Attachment:
Yamato-stern-kure-museum.jpg


Anybody knows how it was and what is correct?

Would really help me to finish my project. Thanks guys,

Jack


Super Illustration Battleship Yamato NO. 745
Page 27:
"Stern anchors
The stern anchors are about half the size of the main anchor. On the starboard is a medium anchor and one of the port is a little smaller"

And in Skulskis actual book there are anchors on both sides of the stern, too!

Chris





The stern anchors (called sheet anchors) were hold over from the concepts of seamanship born during the age of sails. Sheet anchors have very little use in large steam powered ships. In fact many other countries (such as the US and UK) have completely abandoned sheet anchors right after WWI.

Yamato, like most other WWII battleship, undoubtedly gained considerable weight as the war progressed. It would be perfectly expected for the Japanese to jettison one or both of Yamato's essentially useless sheet anchors as war progressed as a gimme weight saving measure to compensate.

_________________
Assessing the impact of new area rug under modeling table.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:27 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:34 pm
Posts: 463
Location: The Lone Star State
EVERYBODY - FYI:

I have just completed the most major update of the Yamato/Musashi Gallery in 10 years with dozens of new, high resolution archive photos that show much more detail. Some of the photos replaced older, low res photos, some were added next to the old photos, and some are brand new - including 4 REAL COLOR photos of Yamato under attack during Leyte Gulf (OK, OK, I know they're taken from 8 miles up, so don't drop your drink!!) :rolf_3:

Anyways ... take your time, peruse and enjoy. :cool_1:

http://WWW.BATTLESHIPYAMATO.COM

_________________
bucketfoot-al
Creator of the Yamato/Musashi Archive Photo Gallery
http://www.battleshipyamato.com
dulce et decorum est pro patria mori


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:26 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Aug 04, 2005 2:50 pm
Posts: 338
Due to recent surgery, I'm unable to do much building right now. One thing I AM doing until I get my arm back is to go through my various unbuilt kits (see what I have, what I have aftermarket parts for etc.). its slow going with just one useable arm

Unfortunately, I'm finding that in some cases, the assembly instructions have disappeared (damn gremlins). For some ships (well, Hood anyway) its no problem. For others, I'm up a certain creek without a rowing implement. This includes a certain Sumo wrestler of a ship...

With this in mind, would someone be willing to photograph the instructions for the post '98 Tamiya 1/700 waterline Yamato? I seem to have lost the instructions and painting instructions (but I do have various bits of aftermarket photoetch!). I bought the kit back in '98 and never did much with it...except lose the instructions!

Many thanks

_________________
Frank Allen
H.M.S. Hood Association
http://www.hmshood.org.uk
Image


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:47 pm 
Online
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 6:00 pm
Posts: 12138
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Frank, Hobby Search has them in beautiful high-rez, but double check the parts numbers to make sure it's the same kit: https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10001802

_________________
De quoi s'agit-il?


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:56 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu Aug 04, 2005 2:50 pm
Posts: 338
Timmy C wrote:
Frank, Hobby Search has them in beautiful high-rez, but double check the parts numbers to make sure it's the same kit: https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10001802


Excellent! That is indeed the correct version/release. Many thanks for your help Timmy!

All the best,

Frank

_________________
Frank Allen
H.M.S. Hood Association
http://www.hmshood.org.uk
Image


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 3173 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 144, 145, 146, 147, 148, 149, 150 ... 159  Next

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 53 guests


You can post new topics in this forum
You can reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group