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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:35 pm 
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Would certainly be nice if someone like Trumpeter would release one or more of the NMs in 1/700, especially since they've done "obscurities" like Colorado and late-war Maryland. It still seems hard to believe no one has attempted this class in plastic yet.
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I might even settle for a cleanup/reissue of the Midship kits....

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:51 pm 
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have you thought of kitbashing an Arizona model into a New Mexico class like I'm doing in these links?
http://members.boardhost.com/modelfleet ... 04258.html
http://members.boardhost.com/modelfleet ... 78666.html
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:thumbs_up_1: Nice, though that's waayy more scratchbuilding than I'm up for.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 3:29 pm 
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that is because I had to add the bulges that are not really there in the Revell 1/429 scale Arizona.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 8:21 am 
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I'll be designing 3D-printed New Mexico class superstructures late this year. It should help modelers who, like David, are kit-bashing a Pennsylvania class hull. It will be made available in 1/426 (1/429 true scale) and 1/350.

14" turrets are available now in 1/350, 1/426 and 1/700. New Mexico class 14" turrets were slightly different than Tennessee class turrets. A special set of 5"/38 single mounts for USS Idaho is available in 1/350 scale. Idaho had a mix of different types of 5" single-gun mounts later in the war. Any of these sets can probably be made available in other scales.

1/700 14" turrets: http://shpws.me/Pd0c
1/426 14" turrets: http://shpws.me/Pdaq
1/350 14" turrets: http://shpws.me/PdjK

1/350 5" mounts: http://shpws.me/PiXO


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:40 am 
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Steve,
Could you do those NM superstructures in 1/700, like you did for the Dragon Arizona?

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 11:01 am 
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ArmchairAdmiral, if using the Arizona hull, you can use it's funnel but will have to extend the height & lengthen the base towards the front which is easy to do using the bread & butter method.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 11:16 am 
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ArmchairAdmiral wrote:
Steve,
Could you do those NM superstructures in 1/700, like you did for the Dragon Arizona?

Yes. :big_grin:

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ModelMonkey wrote:
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Could you do those NM superstructures in 1/700, like you did for the Dragon Arizona?

Yes. :big_grin:


But what can we use for the hull?

Unless we use and heavily modify the hulls for the 1/700 Trumpeter Colorado/Tennessee class kits or 1/700 Hobby Boss Arizona kits.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:13 pm 
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Same problem for Nevada class ships yet there appears to be some demand for superstructures. I hope so. The New Mexico turrets have been selling. It should be pointed out that the Nevada class twin turrets, despite much hype for them, have not been selling certainly because there are so few kits to put them on.

Superstructures are a lot of work for not a lot of revenue (too many have been done at a huge loss). Turrets and directors do far, far better. From a business perspective, the superstructure design(s) for the New Mexico class will be extremely high effort-high risk, as are the pending Nevada class superstructures, which is why none of them have been a high priority in the project queue, pushed back in favor of designs with much better sales potential.

Having said all that, there have been several New Mexico class models produced in 1/700 scale, some relatively recently:
https://www.scalemates.com/search.php?f ... New+Mexico

Perhaps there are enough of those kits still around to justify the design(s).

If I am wrong, please say so now. I'd much rather kill a doomed big-effort, costly design project before I start research than find out only too late there is no market for it.

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If I knew where to get a hold of one of the Blue Ridge or Midship kits, I can almost guarantee I'd buy a superstructure set. If it helps any, my preferences would be:

1) MS pre-war
2) ID late war
3) MS late-war
4) MS post-war/ AG-128

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 8:32 pm 
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ModelMonkey wrote:
Having said all that, there have been several New Mexico class models produced in 1/700 scale, some relatively recently:
https://www.scalemates.com/search.php?f ... New+Mexico

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Most of these kits, including the HP and Blue Ridge ones are out of production, so that’s why I suggested using and modifying the hulls of the Trumpeter Colorado/Tennessee class kits and Hobby Boss Arizona kits.

Freetime Hobbies already exhausted its supply of Blue Ridge battleship kits.

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ArmchairAdmiral, how far pre-war on Mississippi? I think late war superstructure is same as postwar. I want to do New Mexico early war, Idaho late war & Mississippi both 1944 & as AG128.

Haijun, more work to convert Colorado/Tennessee kits to New Mexico class then it is to use the Arizona hull. Colorado/Tennessee kits bows has to be re-shaped as they are clipper bows compared to New Mexico's ram\clipper bow also the kits' torpedo bulges will be wrong compared to New Mexico's.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:03 pm 
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Haijun watcher wrote:
Most of these kits, including the HP and Blue Ridge ones are out of production, so that’s why I suggested using and modifying the hulls of the Trumpeter Colorado/Tennessee kits and Hobby Boss Arizona kits...

Hopefully, many will take your advice. New Mexico class and Nevada class superstructures are coming.

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DavidP wrote:
ArmchairAdmiral, how far pre-war on Mississippi?


I was thinking 1940/41.

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Haijun watcher wrote:
Most of these kits, including the HP and Blue Ridge ones are out of production, so that’s why I suggested using and modifying the hulls of the Trumpeter Colorado/Tennessee kits and Hobby Boss Arizona kits.


Have heard bad things about the HB Arizona, and that the Dragon is much better. However, the Dragon seems to be OOP.... :doh_1:

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all you need is the hull, props\shafts, rudder, funnel & guns not the turrets themselves. the armament can be 3d printed(turrets by Steve) or by Carl at 3D ModelParts. the bow has to be lengthened & reshaped both the deck & hull.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:42 am 
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ModelMonkey wrote:
Hopefully, many will take your advice. New Mexico class and Nevada class superstructures are coming.


Steve, I am totally into this. Just got one of the the Blue Ridge's New Mexico kits. Despite being a nice one, it has its age (in fact it is a slightly reworked Classic Warships' kit) and if you offered a refurbished superstructure, you'd have my money for sure.

As for Nevada, probably the same. I recently bought at least your turrets for my Tom's Modelworks kit.

And I still believe the guys from the ROP (Samek) will come with the NM kits, as they told me a year ago.

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Daytona675R wrote:
Just got one of the the Blue Ridge's New Mexico kits.


Lucky! I have scoured the internet for hours with no success.... :Tirade:

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ArmchairAdmiral wrote:
Lucky! I have scoured the internet for hours with no success.... :Tirade:

I got it from Martin J. Quinn here from the board.

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