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Which were the best 1930's pre-war battleships built?
Poll ended at Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:55 am
King George V class (Britain) 17%  17%  [ 4 ]
Jean Bart class (France) 13%  13%  [ 3 ]
Bismarck class (Germany) 4%  4%  [ 1 ]
Vittorio Veneto class (Italy) 9%  9%  [ 2 ]
North Carolina class (United States) 13%  13%  [ 3 ]
South Dakota class (United States} 43%  43%  [ 10 ]
Total votes : 23
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 3:18 am 
hello everyone

I try to designs uss alabama in scale 1:100. I would like to ask You about photos of underwater part of hull one of this battleship class. Maybe someone have sets of photos undewater hull from dry docking of uss massatchusets od drawing od shell expansion (shell plating).
thanks for help.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 5:12 am 
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hello, been a while since I have been on. recently got the Trumpeter 1/700 South Dakota and I noticed a big detail missing; the mast Yardarm is not present in the Trumpeter kits (have a Alabama as well and it was not present there either) curious on why such a prominent detail would be absent. But anyways, searched through the thread to no luck, but was is the best diameter and length of brass rod to use to craft the missing yardarm?

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I have seen a couple of different solutions.

I am using a brass rod, personally.

But styrene also works.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 2:12 pm 
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MatthewB wrote:
I have seen a couple of different solutions.

I am using a brass rod, personally.

But styrene also works.

MB



settled on scratch building it from styrene.

Trumpeter seems to have goofed on another detail. Does anyone have any blueprints of USS South Dakota that shows the "supports" for the 40mm in the picture I added? When I say trumpeter goofed on this, they basically made that 40mm overhang unsupported and the flagship quarters that are supposed to be there, are not.


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1/700 USS California BB-44 (Trumpeter)
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1/700 USS Houston CL-81

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1/700 USS Guam CB-2
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:30 am 
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Added a list of available SoDak class kits and gallery entries to the first post on Page 1.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 1:35 am 
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Progress on a 1/700 Trumpeter USS South Dakota I am currently working on. Used brass barrels, scratch built blast bags from putty, using small brass chain and Tom's photo etch sheets.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:15 pm 
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hi all
have a question about the BB57 modelling, anyone knows the structure of this area.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:35 pm 
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have a look at this link. http://www.navsource.org/archives/01/015748.jpg appears to be a platform.
http://www.navsource.org/archives/01/015726.jpg
it appears to be a platform for a standard compass according to 1 of the drawing sheets of her I have.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 2:58 am 
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Here are some photos that I took when I visited the Battleship Memorial of the South Dakota when I visited back in June. Looks like its a platform of optics. Don't know how I missed it either and I have been using these images as references. But also the navy model is inaccurate as it has turret B and C swapped...

Edit: I have more if needed. Also have images of the large display demonstration model for how the ship was to look when commissioned if needed as well.


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1/700 USS South Dakota BB-57 (Trumpeter)

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1/700 USS Montana BB-67
1/700 USS Houston CL-81

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1/700 USS Guam CB-2
1/700 Sigourney DD-643
1/700 USS South Dakota BB-49
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:29 pm 
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Betelguese90 wrote:
MatthewB wrote:
I have seen a couple of different solutions.

I am using a brass rod, personally.

But styrene also works.

MB



settled on scratch building it from styrene.

Trumpeter seems to have goofed on another detail. Does anyone have any blueprints of USS South Dakota that shows the "supports" for the 40mm in the picture I added? When I say trumpeter goofed on this, they basically made that 40mm overhang unsupported and the flagship quarters that are supposed to be there, are not.



That is an interesting photo, as it shows the SoDak with the older style Mainmast, rather than the newer that was right next to the Stack.

MB

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1/700 (All Fall 1942):
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HIJMS Aoba & Kinugasa
USS San Francisco
USS Helena
USS St. Louis
USS Laffey & Farenholt
HIJMS Sub-Chasers No. 4 - 7
HIJMS Sub-Chasers No. 13 - 16


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:58 am 
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this is the original photo. pulled it from Navsource and its dated February 1943


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1/700 USS South Dakota BB-57 (Trumpeter)

in progress:
1/700 USS Montana BB-67
1/700 USS Houston CL-81

Waiting Drydock
1/700 USS Guam CB-2
1/700 Sigourney DD-643
1/700 USS South Dakota BB-49
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:07 pm 
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Left to right: Massachusetts, Indiana and Washington, April 1943
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:33 am 
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I do not know how true this is, and hopefully someone can debunk or verify this. But I have been seeing some indication that the South Dakota was slotted to be painted in MS32/9D. It was on the USS Chester and a few Allan M. Sumner and Fletcher destroyers. If it was mentioned to be used on the south Dakota, I wonder what it would have looked like.

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MatthewB wrote:
The only things that I have cataloged on the Alabama are:

• The Bridge structure being "squared-off" and enclosed from the open, rounded bridge of the 1942 Alabama.
• The platforms on the Pyramid Mast being shaped differently (especially the top one and the level corresponding with the "Striker's Bridge" on the Washington/North Carolina-Class). The top level was more "squared off" in 1942, and more rounded in 1945. And the searchlight platform on the Aft of Pyramid Mast is shaped differently.
• The Mainmast is removed from the pedestal and attached to the aft of the stack.
• More light AA guns (don't know where on the 'bama).

MB




So would the Massachusetts kit would be a better starting point for an August-September 45 Alabama?

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Does anyone know of the Massachusetts's bridge was squared off like the Alabama's?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:13 am 
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Hello fellows,

4 months ago I have got requests from few members to made BB59 parts, after hard work parts for USS Massachusetts BB59 Superstructure in 1/600 and 1/700 scale has completed and ready for 3D printing,

Suitable for: US South Dakota Class, USS Massachusetts BB59

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1/600 US Massachusetts BB59 Superstructure Level 1! - http://shpws.me/PG9x
1/700 US Massachusetts BB59 Superstructure Level 1! - http://shpws.me/PHjL
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1/600 US Massachusetts BB59 Superstructure Level 2! - http://shpws.me/PG9u
1/700 US Massachusetts BB59 Superstructure Level 2! - http://shpws.me/PHjN
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1/600 US Massachusetts BB59 Command Bridge! - http://shpws.me/PG9t
1/700 US Massachusetts BB59 Command Bridge! - http://shpws.me/PHjH
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1/600 US Massachusetts BB59 1st Level Abv.House! - http://shpws.me/PHjR
1/700 US Massachusetts BB59 1st Level Abv.House! - http://shpws.me/PHjM
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1/600 US Massachusetts BB59 Funnel Tower! - http://shpws.me/PG94
1/700 US Massachusetts BB59 Funnel Tower! - http://shpws.me/PHjJ
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1/600 US Massachusetts BB59 Funnel Tower (bellow part)! - http://shpws.me/PG92
1/700 US Massachusetts BB59 Funnel Tower (bellow part)! - http://shpws.me/PHjK
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1/600 US Massachusetts BB59 Tower above MK51 Platform! - http://shpws.me/PGb8
1/700 US Massachusetts BB59 Tower above MK51 Platform! - http://shpws.me/PHjI
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If you need a different size just let me know!


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:36 am 
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I was finally able to download pictures of my 1/192 scratch built Massachusetts, which I completed in 1988.

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https://imgur.com/a/CVmq4


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:39 pm 
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Awesome job!


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 4:37 am 
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Hi everyone

Does anybody still have the Yankee modelworks USS South Dakota assembly instructions which they can scan and email me?

I seem to have lost mine and I'm still building the kit (actually its the BWN instructions, but either assembly instructions would suffice.)

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Bruce, I have the South Dakota kit in my stash and can scam and send you the kit instructions. I will send a PM later today with my email address.

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