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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 2:11 pm 
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What are these tubes close to the catapult base, I can't find any pictures where I could see them. Very few photos of this area and the ones I've found seem to have something like life rafts or similar.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 3:30 pm 
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The challenge is width, not height, picture shows just test fit.[/quote]

There is a possibility (large) that the aircraft is over scaled.


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Do we have good pictures or any close ups of the funnel on Admiral Hipper 1939 (flat funnel)?

I am wondering how the cage on the funnel looks etc. trying to rebuild the ship in 1939 fit and the funnel is puzzling a little on details in and around it. Appreciate any help!

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Hi everyone,

I acquired a while ago this model kit then waited long for the corresponding Flyhawk set’s delivery.
After a period of uncertainty, I have decided to refit my Hipper into her 1945 version and, as a plain light grey livery does not interest me so much, with a fictional, self made camouflage scheme. However, there is little information and pictures of the ship during the last years of the war, although I found some through lengthy researches.

To refit Trumpeter’s 1941 Hipper, I have listed the following modifications:
-platforms with railings and ammo boxes on the B and C turrets (Can be reused from my Eugen kit, backdated from 1945 to 1941 so not needed there)
- 4cm Flak 28 AA guns, twin and quadruple 20mm guns: same as above, might need a few more twin 20mm mounts though
- different radar equipment (from Flyhawk’s German naval radar set)
-adding the battle-observer’s post atop of the radar office on the main rangefinder
-adding the radar office atop the aft rangefinder

Does anyone have an idea of what other changes I need to proceed?
Thanks


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 10:41 am 
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She actually had a very interesting camo at the very end. No need to create a fictional one, unless, of course, you want to.
https://ww2db.com/image.php?image_id=27133
http://www.bismarck-class.dk/admiral_hi ... _1945.html

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Well, I do know about her May 1945 camouflage, but while it certainly is an interesting one, I am not so fond of it. Thank you nevertheless, there are one or two pictures on the website that I do not remember seeing before


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 11:35 pm 
Are there any written reviews of Occre's 1/200 Prinz Eugen?


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DougC wrote:
Are there any written reviews of Occre's 1/200 Prinz Eugen?

Here's a pretty comprehensive in-box look on MSW: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/32419- ... gen-occre/

There are also a few on YouTube if you find that to be an acceptable format.

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David Gatt wrote:
The challenge is width, not height, picture shows just test fit.


[quote=“David Gatt”]There is a possibility (large) that the aircraft is over scaled.[/quote]

The Arado 196 wings were removed to fit in the hangar, there’s a very good photo circulating the web, just google Prinz Eugen hangar.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:10 am 
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Don't you mean folded back to the rear, Roberto?

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81542, take a look at these links especially the 1st 1 that shows dotted outlines of aircraft in the hanger with the wings apparently removed as the hanger is barely wider then the tail wing.
http://dreadnoughtproject.org/plans/KM_ ... 100dpi.jpg
http://dreadnoughtproject.org/plans/KM_ ... 100dpi.jpg


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81542 wrote:
Don't you mean folded back to the rear, Roberto?

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Nope, I meant removed and stowed above the planes, the hangar is two decks high.

Photo on page 46 of Steve Wiper's excellent Prinz Eugen Warship Pictorial, or here...

https://ar.pinterest.com/pin/809873945467631651

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The folded width of the Ar196, with wings pivoted aft and "twisted", was not much wider than the span of its tailplane. See, for example, https://www.flickr.com/photos/kruegerrossi/16073516372/, which appears to have been taken in Prinz Eugen's hangar. Certainly an AR196 coded "T3+CH" was carried by that ship.

I believe the wingtip visible in the photo in the Warship Pictorial publication is a spare wing stowed under the hangar roof; the port wing of the lower aircraft visible is just visible in its folded position.


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The folded width of the Ar196, with wings pivoted aft and "twisted", was not much wider than the span of its tailplane. See, for example, https://www.flickr.com/photos/kruegerrossi/16073516372/, which appears to have been taken in Prinz Eugen's hangar. Certainly an AR196 coded "T3+CH" was carried by that ship.
I believe the wingtip visible in the photo in the Warship Pictorial publication is a spare wing stowed under the hangar roof; the port wing of the lower aircraft visible is just visible in its folded position.


You may be right and it may just have been a case of replacing a damaged wing in the photo.
I am going to try the Revell Bismarck and the Tamiya Tirpitz Arados for size, now that I think of it, the Bismarck's side hangars were also quite narrow.

More research is required, but Trumpeter over or undersizing a plane? Never, just look at the EH-101 in their Type 45 DDG... :heh:

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Further to the matter of PRINZ EUGEN's Ar 196 having folding wings. There is a photograph in Profile Warship No 6 by one of her former gunnery officers Paul Schmalenbach, Fregattenkapitän a.D, of one of the aircraft suspended from the crane WITH WINGS FOLDED. There is also another image on the same page of an Ar 196 sitting above and clear of the hangar opening, without wings. This image can be found elsewhere on the Net. I cannot imagine the Germans not shipping at least one of the aircraft onboard without its wings attached and hence, folded. I would not have fancied trying to attach wings to an aircraft on its catapult in any kind of seaway. It is possible that the aircraft shown without wings may have been the "spare" usually stowed in the after end of the hangar, this image may have been the subject of an evolution about which we know nothing.

For further interest, there is also a silhouette sketch of the aircraft stowage arrangements in Schmalenbach's Profile and he also describes how the hangar roof operated in the ship.

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A photo of an Ar196 being stowed in one of Bismarck's hangars appears at https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXDI07xWAAE ... me=900x900


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Thank you TJS. Methinks the matter is now resolved.

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Thank you TJS. Methinks the matter is now resolved.
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I agree, I tested one of Revell's Bismarck Ar-196 in the Trumpy prinz Eugen hangar and it fits perfectly.

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