Calling all HMS York and HMS Exeter (WWII) fans

[Laurence Batchelor]

For you Filipe:

2 views of HMS York at Suda Bay, Crete May 1941

http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/6/1/1 ... 201941.JPG

http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/6/1/1 ... uarter.JPG

LB

[Filipe Ramires]

Ahhhh, excellent photos...specially the first one!!!
Cheers mate.

Filipe

[dick]

Laurence/Filipe,

Re the two York at Suda Bay pictures, What is the consensus of opinion re her light AA fit at this time? There appears to be a possible bin on the roof of B turret but nothing on Y turret. Hard to say whats on the quarterdeck if anything.

Cheers,

Dick

[Laurence Batchelor]

No worries Filipe.

Dick it should be covered in detail earlier in the thread as we went through all the ins and outs in order for Filipe to build her in 1/700.

At this time York had nothing on Y turret and just 20-mm on the quarterdeck in a rectangular gun shield, which isn't completely clear enough in these photos, but is clearer in others and is there.
She also had 20mm atop B turret.

She wore, as can be seen, her Alexandria style camouflage throughout 1940 and 1941 including when she was in Norwegian waters. The only thing which isn't sharp enough is to tell if any of the panels were slightly altered by this May 1941 time.

[Filipe Ramires]

To add some extra info on what Laurence said, York also had two quad Vickers on the bridge wings. And for heavy AA she retained the four single 4'' amidships...unlike Exeter that saw these older guns being replaced by 4 twins. About Y turret there is no information so far that she had a light AA gun on top of it. B turret had a single 20mm and there's one AA position on the stern like it was told here before and discussed when I was building my model of York.

[dick]

Laurence/Filipe,

Many thanks,

Dick

[Laurence Batchelor]

and another one, note far left in the distance:

http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/6/1/1 ... 20left.bmp

[Laurence Batchelor]

I went looking for more photos of Barham, for the other CASF thread and low and behold I found this great shot taken on board Exeter showing her catapult clearly from a different perspective than I have showed before. It was a shame I didn't locate this for you earlier ar ref. Exeter plans, however hopefully anyone building her in this configuration and also Mad Pete will find it useful:



Enjoy chaps!
Regards
Laurence

[Filipe Ramires]

Nice photo indeed. Obviously a pre-war photo for the type of plane carried. Any ideas who's the County class following Exeter???

[Laurence Batchelor]

Identity of the County class coming up astern, sadly isn't given.

[mike mccabe]

Interesting photo, should be an Exeter turning up in the gallery any day now?

Mike

[Filipe Ramires]

Interesting photo, should be an Exeter turning up in the gallery any day now?

Your Exeter I presume . Mine is still inside the box barely touched and with little or no will to pick on it even more knowing that Tamiya might release a brand new mold of her. How hard was the building of the old Matchbox one after all????

[mike mccabe]

Your Exeter I presume . Mine is still inside the box barely touched and with little or no will to pick on it even more knowing that Tamiya might release a brand new mold of her. How hard was the building of the old Matchbox one after all????[/quote]

My Exeter used only the hull, even then it wasn't right, bridge - needed a lot of work, and turrets - they were ok, I put up with them. The rest was all scratchbuilt, so probably worth the wait to see if she comes out, though my guess would be if Tamiya should release an Exeter, it will be a post River Plate refit not the pre River Plate fit of the Matchbox. Depends how much you want an early Exeter and enjoy a challenge.

Mike

[Laurence Batchelor]

I expect also two resin manufacturers to likely to produce Exeter kits.
One in 1/700 and one in 1/350, the later reached master stage. Both companies received the necessary reference material a long time back.
The kits would more likely be pre-1940 refit i.e. December 1939, although a 1942 version particularly from the 1/350 producer cannot be ruled out as it may be more commercial for Americans to want to depict Exeter at her time of loss.

However, I am not allowed to share the post Devonport refit plans, of which there are only 3 copies in existence.
If they want to do a post-1940 kit they would need to send Alan Raven a letter expressly seeking his permission and compensate him for his hard work.
If using the photos supplied, mistakes could creep into the said kits if desiring to depict her as per 1942 unless you obtain the above.

I also noticed your Exeter Mike, on the finescalemodeler website.
Very nice work indeed from the Matchbox kit.

P.S. Thank god for Tim Cahill!

[mike mccabe]

P.S. Thank god for Tim Cahill!

He would just thank himself, he is god. Tonight anyway

Despite the hard work with the Matchbox build, it would be great to see a few more models of this handsome ship in the near future.

Mike

[MartinI]

I'm new to this forum and am hoping for some help.

I'm looking for good HMS Exeter drawings, preferably River Plate version, (just watched the 1956 movie!). The only ones I've found so far are the Warship Profile, and David Metcalf's from the Model Boat plans service. I'm considering a large-ish R/C version.
Is the Metcalf drawing worth getting? (I got his Invincible drawing some years ago and ended up going with the A&A drawing instead.) Are there others? I understand that Alan Raven may be a member of this forum. Does he sell plans?
Thanks for any help.

Martin

[MartinI]

Thanks David - lots of good stuff there.

Thanks also to Peppe and Mike for the help they have offered. All bits of information on the Battle of the River Plate version greatly appreciated.

Martin

[FrancisMcN]

Martin,

I got that plan (1/192) with the eventual aim of using it to guide a 1/700th Matchbox kit conversion to the post River Plate configuration as that is the version the plan covers. It is fairly basic with a profile and elevation and hull sections and basic lines and some extra drawings for boats and crane but would require a fair bit of guesswork/interpretation to complete. For RC I presume you would work at 1/96th or larger so it would need enlarging quite a bit to say the least and it would be short on detail.

There used to be in a long closed model shop in Exeter itself a large (8-10 foot long) model of the ship in pre-war configuration that presumably is still around somewhere. It might be worth asking on Model Boats site and perhaps at the Child -Beale museum if any more is known about that model now - were you thinking that big? I suspect the builder used NMM plans.

From memory there also used to be a 1/200th card model that might provide a reasonable basis - Marcle models http://www.marcle.clara.net/ might be able to advise if it can still be sourced.

Good luck

Francis Macnaughton

[peppe]

effectively it is a card model of the exter 1:200, is the polish GPM 36 but is in 1941 "dressing"
i have a electronic version in pdf but is very heavy around 8 mega.
ciao peppe

[peppe]

one more cardmodel but same 1941mod you can find at
http://www.only-paper.ru/news/2008-04-05-880
is in russian and you can download from letitbit.net doing same surfing
ciao peppe