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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 6:39 am 
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dick wrote:
1) = 18 May 1941


Yep, agreed May, you just beat me to the punch Dick! :wave_1:

But I didn't know the date, so thanks! :thumbs_up_1:

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 7:22 am 
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Thank you!

What do you think which deck colours Exeter had when sunk?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 12:07 am 
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maxim wrote:
Thank you!

What do you think which deck colours Exeter had when sunk?


Not meaning to be sarcastic but your guess is as a good as mine on that one. Maybe Dick knows?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 2:06 am 
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My interpretation of the May 1941 (black and white) aerial photos is that her decks were at that time stained/painted a uniform colour (presumably grey) the tone of which matched the overall grey of the ship.

Apart from the photos of her listing over and sinking which are not much help, I have two versions of the same 1942 aerial photo that might help to answer the question re her decks at the time of her loss. It was taken by the Japanese on 15th February 1942. It seems to show that the maintenance of the staining/painting of the wooden decks was breaking down and bare wood is exposed in some areas. But that is a bit of a guess and my copies of the photo are of poor quality - maybe someone has better or others from that time?


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 3:15 am 
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Maybe this is of some help?

Possibly the burial service for the airmen that perished when her Walrus crashed into the sea. Not sure if this happened late 41 or early 42. Please correct me if I am on wrong on those dates, as cant find my reference re same and Capt. Gordon's comment re same.

That is, Capt. Gordon was very lucky, as in the previous flight of same Walrus off said ship he was a passenger, so lucky for him it didn't crash then!


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 3:24 am 
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Thank you for the photos!

It is difficult to guess the colour of the decks, especially on the upper photo there appear to be two or three colours of the deck, which is unlikely. It is more likely that is only an impression caused by the different materials and shadows. It would be uniformly grey and it could be unpainted planked decks :?:

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:48 pm 
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Gents,

Does anyone know if there exist any 'drawings' showing exactly where HMS Exeter was hit by Graf Spee, and more specifically the trajectory of the shells into / inside the ship (along the lines of drawing/s occasionally seen, IIRC, for HMS Prince of Wales after Bismarck action)?

Been reading the book, 'Exeter. A Cruiser Of The Medium Size' (EXCELLENT by the way, although 'action' doesn't start until at least 2/3rd's through, but still EXCELLENT nevertheless) and the authour gives a VERY descriptive account of all (or I think all) shell hits and describes any trajectories for the ones that made it inside the ship, so wondering if there were ever any AAR drawing/s made of said trajectories? (And yes, I have seen all or many of the pics of Exeter after she limped back to the Falklands, and know where the hits were in general, but would be very interested to actually 'see' the trajectories of any that penetrated as the book describes - as opposed to the ones detonating when they hit the ship, as several did on the forward turrets, and elsewhere, along with some very very near misses.)

TIA for any help.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 5:05 pm 
The Trumpeter 1/350 Exeter kit is due on the 1st November in the UK according to one UK stockist/online retailer.


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It's out. I just bought one from my local hobby store. Looks pretty darn nice.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 7:47 pm 
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Will you post pictures of it? I am pretty much interesting in getting one!

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 1:35 am 
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Can't do it tonight... worked late, and now still prepping my models and packing for a 4AM departure (i.e in 4.5 hours from now) and 6 hour drive to Modelzona... I'll take it along and try to take some shots in the motel room tomorrow night.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:21 am 
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They're not the best photos... taken in a motel room with the available lighting and without a camera stand, but it's all I can do for now. I decided against photographing the Walruses; the clear plastic would be hard to see in photos, and they're the same ones they've already produced. I do wish the PE set would've included wing braces to replace the solid plastic ones.


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File comment: Upper left: main turret sprues - three of each included. Upper right: cats, rafts, torp. tubes, etc. sprues - two of each included. Decals & PE self-explanatory.
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File comment: Superstructure and fine parts. Beautifully tapered and detailed masts... will have to be completely replaced to support even the most rudimentary of rigging.
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File comment: Side view of the superstructures, showing Trumpeter's use of slide molding - no annoying 5+ piece deckhouses with corners that never quite meet right...
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File comment: Deck pieces and hull. Note the large amount of overlap between the upper fore deck and lower aft.
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File comment: Decks shown lapped, and a closer view of the midship hull detailing. Yes, it's overdone, but I've seen far worse. Maybe mask the raised portions and apply several coats of Mr. Surfacer to build up the recessed areas?
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File comment: Painting and marking guide. I've not seen the EX markings before... anyone know what time period (if any) they were in use?
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File comment: Box top. A bit different from Trumpeter's traditional style.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:34 am 
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Thanks SeanF for the photos. waiting on my from Freetime to show up.

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Looks good! Thank you for posting, Sean. Full hull, will be necessary to cut for a waterline display. I wonder about time to aftermarkets.

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I have been looking for pictures of the 2 pounder AA guns on HMS Exeter (1939, Battle of the River Plate), and can´t really find much about them, supposedly QF Mk II 2 pounders (40mm). Are there any pictures available to see the specific type? (and any aftermarkets in 1/350?)

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 1:02 pm 
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See here:
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNBR_2pounder_m2.php

Perhaps AJM has that gun in 1/350?

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Thank you, I just could find a set of metal gun barrels for the BL 8" main guns (although the set says Mk VII, they say "for HMS Norfolk", too, which used the BL 8"/50 Mk VIII), the QF 4" barrels, but not the proper QF Mk II 2 pounder- Will keep on searching.

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Marco wrote:
I have been looking for pictures of the 2 pounder AA guns on HMS Exeter (1939, Battle of the River Plate), and can´t really find much about them, supposedly QF Mk II 2 pounders (40mm). Are there any pictures available to see the specific type? (and any aftermarkets in 1/350?)

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I don''t think Exeter got 2 pdr guns until her repair after River Platte. That could be why you can't find a photo.

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EXETER's single 2pdrs abreast the bridge had gone by 1939. Photos of her damage after the Battle of the River Plate show quadruple 0.5" Vickers machine gun mountings there, which had apparently replaced the 2 pdrs in 1934-35. As Captain Morgan said, she had 2pdrs fitted aft, in octuple mountings, during her battle damage repairs.


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Well this is news to me. I know that the cuadruple (Mk VIII?) 2-pounders were installed only after repairs, I was referring to the Mk II, single barrel mount reported as original armament. No luck finding picture of either the 2 pounder nor the Vickers 0.50" mounts that you mention, could you provide a reference where to find them?


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