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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:45 am 
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Hi KevinD, off the top of my head you're answer would be in the 8 inch handbook where the complete loading sequence is given, including times for reload and shell / cordite re supply, as far as my jotted down references I think its Adm 234/190 National Archives Kew.

They are fairly large books so it would be a visit I'm afraid.

Have Navweaps not got info on loading angle?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:52 am 
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Hi All,

Hi KevinD, just checked on Navweaps and the Mk1 and 1* have a reload angle of 10°, but the Mk2 and 2* which I think was on Exeter is given as 6°.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:31 am 
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Cag wrote:
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Hi KevinD, just checked on Navweaps and the Mk1 and 1* have a reload angle of 10°, but the Mk2 and 2* which I think was on Exeter is given as 6°.
Hope that helps
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Thanks for doing the work for me Sean. :thumbs_up_1:

I don't know why I didn't go look there in the first place. :doh_1:

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tjstoneman wrote:
According to a post on this thread (admittedly 11 years ago - 5 January 2010!), the 20mm were never fitted in the tubs on "B" and Y" turrets, with mountings for single machine guns instead. Not sure if any weapons were ever fitted in the tubs abreast the mainmast.
The single 2 pounder pompoms had been replaced by quadruple Vickers 0.5" machine guns some years before the war. The four single 4" HA guns had been replaced by 8 4" guns in four twin mountings, and two octuple 2 pounder pompom mountings added, during her 1940 repairs.



Did she retain her quad vickers 50's after her refit?

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The quadruple 0.5" mountings remained in place abreast the bridge after her repairs in 1940 - see, for example, http://steelnavy.com/images/OkretySwiat ... Exeter.JPG, where the four drum magazines of the starboard mounting can be seen reflecting light just above S1 twin 4" mounting.


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The quadruple 0.5" mountings remained in place abreast the bridge after her repairs in 1940 - see, for example, http://steelnavy.com/images/OkretySwiat ... Exeter.JPG, where the four drum magazines of the starboard mounting can be seen reflecting light just above S1 twin 4" mounting.


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Hi guys,

a quick question in regard to Aoshima's 1/700 Exeter.

Should the square structure right behind the catapults be removed? From the 1930's photo, there should be a scaffold-type structure aft of each catapult.

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There is still a structure there just aft of the cats post refit, but it does not appear enclosed as on the model.


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KevinD wrote:
There is still a structure there just aft of the cats post refit, but it does not appear enclosed as on the model.


Could this be the same scaffold type structure, but viewed from a different angle?

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hj1985 wrote:
KevinD wrote:
There is still a structure there just aft of the cats post refit, but it does not appear enclosed as on the model.


Could this be the same scaffold type structure, but viewed from a different angle?

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It seems the table with the heavy legs is intended to represent the flimsy scaffold. Only a PE representation would do it justice. So discard the thing from the kit and build the scaffold yourself I suggest.

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Maarten Schönfeld wrote:
It seems the table with the heavy legs is intended to represent the flimsy scaffold. Only a PE representation would do it justice. So discard the thing from the kit and build the scaffold yourself I suggest.


Thank you Maarten. It seems the DIY is the only option here.


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Were the porthole covers of the lower level of Exeter were still barely visible after the 1940/41 refit? Many cruisers still had the covers somehow visible after wartime refit, e.g. HMS Kent, but it seems those of the Exeter were completely flattened.

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Kazec wrote:
Were the porthole covers of the lower level of Exeter were still barely visible after the 1940/41 refit? Many cruisers still had the covers somehow visible after wartime refit, e.g. HMS Kent, but it seems those of the Exeter were completely flattened.

To answer your initial question; no they were not visible. The attached photos seem to confirm that all but about 10 of the lower scuttles were completely plated over with 'sheets' of hull platting, not just 'patched' over individually so to speak.

EDIT: Rewrote my first sentence to clarify my response.


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KevinD wrote:
Kazec wrote:
Were the porthole covers of the lower level of Exeter were still barely visible after the 1940/41 refit? Many cruisers still had the covers somehow visible after wartime refit, e.g. HMS Kent, but it seems those of the Exeter were completely flattened.

To answer your initial question; no they were not visible. The attached photos seem to confirm that all but about 10 of the lower scuttles were completely plated over with 'sheets' of hull platting, not just 'patched' over individually so to speak.

EDIT: Rewrote my first sentence to clarify my response.


Thank you. The images are clear enough.

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I am restarting work on my HMS Exeter (Trumpeter 1/350), and well, took not long until I found something I need more information about. I am working on the pipes in front of the main funnel, and it seems like Trumpeter completely forgot about a set of 2 pipes departing the funnel forward, hidden by the structures between the funnel and the forward upper deck. Are there clear pictures of what happens to these pipes entering the forward superstructure? Oh man, I can´t remember anymore how to upload pictures... let´s see... Got it! This is what I was referring to. It seems like the pipes cross horizontally to the front upper deck, and then?
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And my second question, the area in front of the forward funnel, I don´t get what is there. In modern times, I would have said that they store the helicopter pontoons there, but... Have seen representations of that part being wooden deck (which I doubt, maybe a canvas cover). Grateful for any clue.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2022 11:33 am 
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Is your build pre refit (as in the photos you loaded) or post refit?

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2022 11:43 am 
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Pre-refit, as it was right before the Battle of the River Plate.

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Marco, I can't really answer your questions re pipes, but here are photos of what was between the forward superstructure and forefunnel in 1939 / 40 (the photos you posted are taken in 1934).

It appears to be a hard sided / hard topped box like structure to me, but I'll leave that for others to interpret. But what it contained, well who knows?


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This is purely conjecture: the box stuctures above the funnel trunking were only present in photos taken prior to her damage repairs after the Battle of the River Plate, and only when she had Walrus aircraft embarked. Photos taken when she was carrying Fairey IIIF floatplanes show replacement aircraft floats in that position. The unidentified boxes appear (without any accurate measurements available) to be roughly the size of the folding section of a Walrus's mainplane. Are they stowages for spare wings?

(Edit: I have found one photo showing the boxes when she was carrying IIIF aricraft.)


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Thank you very much for your input. The description of the pipes would be enough to build them on my Exeter, and I think I’ll issue the “box-like” structure, although I think that the cover might be soft, like canvas on something, and I see a slight curve, sort of hangar-shaped cover.
Let’s see if it looks right on the model!

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