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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:39 am 
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They were linked from a subdomain of our Shipbucket website that's no longer active. Here they are..................


WOW, cool! THANKS!!!


Just noticed today that I came up as a 'guest' above. Not sure how that happened but, for the record. that was me thanking you for posting. So again, THANKS!

Now a question (well, three); what is that above and abaft the main mast that looks like a torpedo (a torpedo?) and what does it signify, and................why is it not there on the San Juan June 42 diagram?

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:11 am 
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:43 pm 
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what is that above and abaft the main mast that looks like a torpedo (a torpedo?) and what does it signify,
(I know nothing about this class!). If you saw a drawing of another ship without it, then the artist either didn't put it in, the ship didn't have a torpedo launcher, or the poster edited it out.

Hope this helps.


Helps, and thanks for your reply.

Guess it was inadvertantly left out then, as CL 54 - USS San Juan (previous page) had torps in June 42, and the launcher can be seen on deck below.

No worries, easy to 'fix'!


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:04 pm 
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Thanks, and yes, they are just depictions of the "missile" (in this case the Mark 15 torpedoes used on the class), shown above the ship as putting them below it is confusing to look at. For the CL-54 drawing I just missed it.

Not to derail the thread anymore, but all my Shipbucket work can be found here: http://shipbucket.com/drawings/search?c ... dDate=1960


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 11:47 pm 
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On my trip to NARA last week I came across one of the rare photos of USS SAN DIEGO as she appeared post initial Fitting-Out, 10 January to about 28 February 1942 (may have departed earlier than this date) at the Boston Navy Yard in a photo collection I had not been in. This was the only photo in an ATLANTA class Cruiser folder. This would be her Shakedown configuration, which lasted about six weeks. The location isn't certain, but likely was off Boston or in Hampton Roads. This photo shows her prior to the quad 1.1-in mount being installed on her fantail. During her Post-Shakedown availability, 15 April to 8 May 1942 at BosNY, she would have had the fourth quad 1.1-in mount installed. Fred had a copy of this image as provided to him from a crewman and a smaller low-res version was posted earlier in this thread ... viewtopic.php?f=48&t=23563&start=160#p492823 ... It was uncertain as to the source or date of that image and isn't available in either the 19-LCM or 80-G collections at NARA. This scan is a better copy than the one I was shown. There likely were additional photos taken at the same time as the aircraft circled the ship.

This image shows that her Mk 4 radars have been censored, but the SC-1 air search radar wasn't.

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Just announced by the crew of RV Petrel: the grave of the five Sullivan brothers has been found. USS Juneau rests nearly 2.6 miles below the surface off the Solomon Islands.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:23 pm 
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Facebook Announcement with video
Paul Allen page announcement.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:34 pm 
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Perhaps now the great and tedious debate around what camouflage the ship was painted in can be solved (once more photos are released). ;)


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:33 pm 
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That was some serious violence visited upon that ship.
Here is a photo of what that area did look like:
http://www.navsource.org/archives/04/052/0405207.jpg

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'"RV Petrel The camouflage paint scheme is present on the main hull section. We will post further images and video soon.
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She may be in four sections - this quick sonar view they posted has "Bow and Stern" listed as well as "forward section." I'm not sure if she's in three pieces and the stern piece is just larger or if there's a fourth "aft section" they didn't show.

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I am building a working model and need information on the rudder. Does Anyone have drawings of the rudder they can post or email? Tia


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:05 am 
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On my last trip to NARA, I came across another photo showing USS SAN DIEGO (CL-53) prior to her going to the Pacific. This undated and not identified location photo was taken to note USS STRATFORD (AP-41). With a little research, it was easy to pinpoint that the photo was taken at the South Boston Navy Yard. More digging given when the three ships I could readily ID, USS SAN DIEGO (CL-53), USS STRATFORD (AP-41), and USS ALBEMARLE (AV-5), (it looks like one of the reverse lend lease FLOWER class Corvettes and a USCG Cutter are also in the view) were all at South BosNY at the same time should narrow down the date. USS SAN DIEGO had returned from her shakedown, entering BosNY on 15 April 1942 where she would receive several modifications prior to heading to the Pacific, including the addition of a quad 1.1-in mount on her fantail. It was planned that she would install a SG radar as well, but that didn't happen due to lack of equipment. SAN DIEGO would finish her refit on 8 May 1942. USS STRATFORD arrived at Boston on 21 March 1942 for an overhaul and repairs that lasted until 6 May 1942. USS ALBEMARLE arrived at BosNY on about 3 April and finished her overhaul on 1 May 1942. Given these dates and that the fantail quad 1.1-in mount has yet to be installed on SAN DIEGO, this photo likely dates from mid-April 1942.

This image shows most of her portside at this time which with the previous image I posted from march 1942, shows most of her camouflage Ms 12R(mod) pattern. Reviewing images of USS SAN DIEGO in the Pacific in late 1942, shows that her pattern didn't change much.

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Gents, although not available to post at present, but just as a heads up tease as it were, have just recently seen some FANTASTIC u/w photos of around aft area of USS Atlanta :thumbs_up_1:, an area I know well from previous expeditions we did to said wreck. Will post here when permission given. They are a sight worth waiting for, I can assure you. The 'shooter' had crystal, well almost, clear visibility to work in. :smallsmile:

And the smilie below even has what looks like 51 on the bow!!! :woo_hoo:

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:14 pm 
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Surfing Navsource and found this Atlanta:
http://www.navsource.org/archives/04/090/0409016.jpg

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I assume you are referring to the ATLANTA class cruiser in the background. Based on the dazzle camo scheme, from USNDazzle.com , the cruiser is wearing a Ms3x/24D pattern. Only USS SAN DIEGO (CL-53) and USS RENO (CL-96) wore this pattern. USS SAN DIEGO was in Ms 32/24D and USS RENO was in Ms33/24D. I can't make out details of the cruiser from this image, but I suspect it is most likely USS SAN DIEGO. USS RENO was badly damaged by a torpedo on 3 November 1944 and didn't complete repairs until late in 1945 at Charleston Navy Yard.

By the way, the Navsource date for this photo, 26 November 1946, is in error. The source of the image is from the USS ASTORIA website ... http://www.mighty90.com/Reporting_for_Duty.html ... which dates the photo from November 1944, ID's the ATLANTA class cruiser as USS SAN DIEGO and the oiler alongside as USS Sepulga AO-20. So the date may be a mere typo error of 1946 when it should be 1944.


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Surfing Navsource and found this Atlanta class boat:
She's in the background behind the Wisconsin.

http://navsource.org/archives/01/064/016409d.jpg

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The 350 scale "Atlantas" are coming hopefully sooner rather than later!


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Well, its been almsot two years since saying I would post these U/W photos taken by Pete Measley on the USS Atlanta wreck; they are all taken from her aft section, starting at her (collapsed) Stbd torp tubes aft to her broken off stern. Note the bent Stbd prop shaft!

Better late than never 'they' say! Hope it was worth the wait gents. Enjoy.


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And seeing as I am posting paintings elsewhere, I may as well post this beauty of one of my favourite ships, USS Atlanta (here seen at the 'Barroom Brawl' Friday 13th, November 1942, and I think first published in Bob Ballards long ago book re Guadalcanal wrecks).


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