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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:05 am 
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The IJN Oyodo with a complete set of PE set, from Fujimi in 1/700 is out. To avoid misunderstanding the IJN Oyodo is old mold, the PE set is complete new of course. And before asking me this, some parts SOME parts can be used for the new molded IJN Oyodo in 1/700 by Aoshima.
Link for the IJN Oyodo in 1/700 by Fujimi with PE set:http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10155423
And some picture from Hobby Search site:
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:34 pm 
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Kashii, the final ship of the Katori Light Cruiser Class, will be released by Aoshima later this fall, culminating the release of new moldings of this class of ship.

As discussed earlier in this thread, this release will come with a second dummy funnel:

http://www.hlj.com/product/AOS04543


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:19 am 
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Most interesting !


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Atma wrote:
Most interesting !


It appears from pictures in MAS #41 that the rear crane was used as part of the rig to keep the dummy funnel erect.


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D-Boy wrote:
Kashii, the final ship of the Katori Light Cruiser Class, will be released by Aoshima later this fall, culminating the release of new moldings of this class of ship.

As discussed earlier in this thread, this release will come with a second dummy funnel:

http://www.hlj.com/product/AOS04543


Hobby Link Japan shows this kit available for order as of 11/1/2011.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 7:07 am 
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Its already out:
http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10160995


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:31 pm 
According to ModelArt 41 which I just reviewed for IPMSUSA, the 2nd funnel on Kashii in 1942 was a replacement for a sister ship that had a damaged funnel. Close observation of online pictures and photos in ModelArt 41 will show the crane was holding up (bracing) the 2nd funnel with a cable.
Not a true dummy funnel, but a repair and refit mission.
Still unusual and interesting for Aoshima to put this version in plastic.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:07 am 
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With all due respect, Luke, that information is erroneous. Kashii departed Singapore with supplies for a reinforcement run to the Solomons in Sept, 1942. The dummy funnel was errected to help disguise her as an American cruiser. None of the sisters recorded any damage in that timeframe.

Besides, 1) damage of that nature would be handled directly by a repair yard 2) a sister ship would not be used to transport a funnel out to a ship, 3) a replacement funnel would probably not be transported in an upright position. It's clearly ribbed for canvas and wood construction.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:08 am 
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Well I was finnishing my IJN Oyodo from Aoshima in 1/700 in a late 1944/ early 1945 mode.
According to the Aoshima instructions, in stage "9", 2 unshielded mg directors type 95 shall be glued on both sides of the pagoda structures, part "C29". Well according to the book "Imperial Japaense Cruisers of the Pacific War" and on the page 629, those mg directors where replaced in March of 1944 by single type 96 25mm AA guns.
The Aoshima kit provides with two extra type 96 25 mm single AA guns, those shall be placed on the pagoda of IJN Oyodo, replacing the part "C29" in the stage "9" of Aoshima's instructions.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:12 am 
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And to make things clear, this is the instructions of Aoshima's 1/700 Oyodo and the part that needs to be replaced:
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Atma wrote:
Well I was finnishing my IJN Oyodo from Aoshima in 1/700 in a late 1944/ early 1945 mode.


Hopefully we will see this in the gallery soon!

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Yes, I concur.


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Aoshima's old-mold Katori/Kashima class LC's come with a dual float bi-plane. Suspecting that these plastic pieces are meant to represent a Kawanishi E7K "Alf" three-seat bi-plane. Can anyone confirm this or suggest an alternate 2-float bi-plane?

Just trying to get a sense of how many seats, number of blades on prop, and what the primary markings might have been. Any suggestions?

OK, tracked down a copy of Eduardo Cea's "Air Force of the Japanese Imperial Navy, 1922-1945 (II), which notes the following:

Katori
November 1941: Type 94 Kawanishi E7K2
July 1942: Type 95 Nakajima E8N
Juky 1943: None

Kashima
November 1940: Nakajima E8N
1941 -1942: Type 94 Kawanishi E7KI, Type or Mitsubishi F1M1/2 Observation Seaplane

Kashi
November 1940: Kawanishi E7K1
"By a short period:" Mitsubishi F1M1 Observation Seaplane

Red bands on the front floats (prop warning?), white bands between heinmaru and tail.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:36 pm 
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An E7K is correct for pre and early war fits. There's a couple of pics in Maru Special #44.


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Interesting photo here of the IJN Light Cruiser Kashima in use as a repatriation ship: http://www.keu-ocr.narod.ru/IJN_names/pictures/17.jpg

Does anyone know of additional references - it appears in this photo, and Wikipedia text indicates that an extended deckhouse was built on the stern to accomodate troops transported home after the war.

Does anyone know if there are any USN photographic files on IJN ships used for repatriation purposes?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:39 am 
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As fas as I can recall, most of the postwar photos are spread far and wide, as opposed to having them collated into one source.

Here are a couple; can;t remember the actual source.


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Dan K wrote:
As fas as I can recall, most of the postwar photos are spread far and wide, as opposed to having them collated into one source.

Here are a couple; can't remember the actual source.


Dan, you are ace every time. Remarkable.

As we've discussed, I've got one of each of the new Katori/Kashima/Kashii kits, and while they build, OOB, into a early war (Katori), late war with AA (Kashima) and phantom funnel (Kashii) versions, I'm just looking ahead and thinking it might be more interesting to build Kashima as a post-war model.

Interesting that the forward armament barrels are intact (guess I'd destroy the other end of the weapon to render it inoperable myself).

Would love to find some top-down photos of mid and stern deck... that's where the superstructure was altered, apparently.


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Overheads may be impossibel to find, if they even exist. Also, timing is important. For the initial reparation voyages, the ships were used pretty much as is. Over time, extra berthing was added.


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Dan K wrote:
Overheads may be impossibel to find, if they even exist. Also, timing is important. For the initial reparation voyages, the ships were used pretty much as is. Over time, extra berthing was added.


And it is that extra berthing on the Kashima that I am interested in!


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Well, good luck with that :thumbs_up_1:

Since the Katoris have captured your fancy, particularly the post war Kashima, you should probably read David Poyer's "China Sea".


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