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 Post subject: Re: HMAS SYDNEY piccys.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:09 am 
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must have been indeed a shock & at the same time a relief for the relatives ...

They now know where their dads / grand dads rest forever ...

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 Post subject: HMNZS ACHILLES
PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:59 pm 
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Gentlemen, and ladies,
I am trying to figure out what her bridge deck looked like. I would rather not just throw a couple of ranfinders and fake the rest. I have the profile morskie top and profile views thanks to Max, but really can't see what I am supposed to put there. Can anyone help?

Here are a few in process shots; constructive criticism is welcomed, but after 4 years of build&stare, I just want her finished.
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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 11:05 pm 
To all your readers, I have studied the mystery of the Sydney for 12 years, attended both the Senate and Cole Inquiries and have given evidence, including photographic evidence, that the ships found are not the Sydney and Kormoran. The badges are wrong for the Sydney's boats which should not have badges on them at all. Two different turrets, and Y turret is not covered by debris but fishing net and plastic pipes. One of the boats has had several deletions made using digital work and many other faults. The stern is different to the Sydney, the watertight doors all hang open, the funnel behind the searchlight platform shows it to be a Leander cruiser ie Neptune. The searchlight platform is completely wrong and has a Carley float mounting hanging from it which Sydney never had, but used on British ships. Additionally, the quarterdeck shows a chain around the bollards and cable coiled up on the deck with a piece hanging over the stern. Like Neptune this ship was rigged for towing. There are many instances of mistakes in the few photographs released, about 24 out of 1400 they claim to have of the ship. No one has seen them all that I know of, and although there were several ex-Sydney crew in Perth when the search took place, none were invited onboard. Incidentally, the whaler cradle mentioned by one reader is not a cradle at all but the end of the catapult, of which there are three ?? There are so many mistakes I cannot list them all but a close study will probably reveal even more to you if you look closely, the Bakers' shop, bridge etc just too many.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:20 am 
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Hello,
I'd like to know the weapons carried by the HMNZS Achilles in 1942.
Now, I know that she was armed with 4 twin 6" turrets, 4 single 4" AA guns, 3 quad MG and 2 quad TT, plus a catapult for a Walrus seaplane.
I know that she had a refit from september to early december 1942 in Aukland ( http://www.naval-history.net/xGM-Chrono ... hilles.htm ), and I'd like to know if she got better AA guns during that period.
Maybe some 20mm Oerlikon or some 2pdr. pom-pom were fitted.
Maybe the facilities in Aukland were not able to provide replacement for single 4" with double mounts as in her sisters.

Thank you in advance
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Greating gentlemen,

I was wondering if anybody out there knows of the identity of the Japanese sub credited with the torpedo-ing of HMAS Hobart:

"On 20 July 1943, while at sea with the ships of Task Force 74, HOBART was struck by a torpedo fired by a Japanese submarine and suffered severe damage and some casualties. She managed to proceed to Esperitu Santo where after de-ammunitioning, she was escorted to Sydney by HMAS WARRAMUNGA and HMAS ARUNTA, arriving on 26 August for extensive repairs which kept her out of service until 1945"
http://www.navy.gov.au/HMAS_Hobart_(I)

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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Phealan wrote:
Greating gentlemen,

I was wondering if anybody out there knows of the identity of the Japanese sub credited with the torpedo-ing of HMAS Hobart:

"On 20 July 1943, while at sea with the ships of Task Force 74, HOBART was struck by a torpedo fired by a Japanese submarine and suffered severe damage and some casualties. She managed to proceed to Esperitu Santo where after de-ammunitioning, she was escorted to Sydney by HMAS WARRAMUNGA and HMAS ARUNTA, arriving on 26 August for extensive repairs which kept her out of service until 1945"
http://www.navy.gov.au/HMAS_Hobart_(I)

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Ben. :wave_1:


Hello Ben,
According to Nihon Kaigun website, it was I-11.
"20 July 1943:
Off San Cristobal, New Hebrides, Solomons. At a range of 10 miles, LtCdr Tagami fires two Type 95 torpedoes at the Australian light cruiser HMAS HOBART. One hits the HOBART port amidships at 15-07S, 163-43E but she makes Espirtu Santo the next day with 15 dead and seven injured seamen aboard. After temporary repairs she makes Sydney under her own power, but permanent repairs to the extensively damaged ship take 17 months."

Link to the website : http://www.combinedfleet.com/kaigun.htm

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:00 pm 
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Hi Guys,

I've been keen to build Perth for a couple of years. We dived her in 2009 and I know some of her survivors.
Unfortunately there are no 1:350 models of her. I am therefore investigating the difficulties of converting the ISW Achilles to represent Perth.
Now, while the plans and the figures say that Perth is a bit over 2 meters longer than Achilles ( and 30cm wider) on the plans from Profile Morskie the inter turret distance appears to be within 1 mm. In fact it is quite difficult to see exactly where the extra length has been added. From what I can tell so far things seem to fit quite well and although it will not technically be exactly correct for length etc. the difference will be imperceptible without the real thing next to it.
Here's where I am up to with this experiment so far. The hull was sent to me in error when I ordered their Exeter model so at worst it will become scrap but if this look promising I will purchase the rest of the kit and give it a go.
Your opinions valued!

Andrew
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Forward deck reconstructed and rear susperstructure template. Central deck house will probably need to be removed and remade.rear deck house is not quite correct shape but the vents are in the correct position and given that it is under the gun deck it may not be worth changing given the damage that will be done to the deck.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:30 pm 
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I'm interested in doing an Airfix 1:600 Ajax conversion to the HMAS Sydney, however the model has not been produced by Airfix since 2006 so I'm having a bit of toruble getting my hands on a model.

Once I get my hands on one, it'll be my next model right after I finish the DKM Bismarck and Hr. Ms. Evertsen.

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Trying to confirm whether the AA gun fitted on the quarterdeck of HMAS Perth in Feb 1941 is an Oerlikon and where it would have come from. Were there spares available in the Med at that time or would it have come from another ship?

Would anyone have a closeup of an Oerlikon gun fitted on the quarterdeck of a british cruiser around that time? I know HMS York had one in 1940-41.

Also any info regarding when these guns were fitted to the cruisers in the Med fleet.
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 1:51 am 
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I dont think your photo shows Perth.


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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 9:03 am 
The 20mm OERLIKON would have been in place by early January.

For an exchange on this subject, see Steel Navy messages of recent date between Constable and WR.

A question; Why would you want to see a photo of of a 20mm fitted an the quarterdeck of a cruiser at that time? I don't see how that would help you.

spruso wrote:
Trying to confirm whether the AA gun fitted on the quarterdeck of HMAS Perth in Feb 1941 is an Oerlikon and where it would have come from. Were there spares available in the Med at that time or would it have come from another ship?

Would anyone have a closeup of an Oerlikon gun fitted on the quarterdeck of a british cruiser around that time? I know HMS York had one in 1940-41.

Also any info regarding when these guns were fitted to the cruisers in the Med fleet.
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I don't remember ever hearing of a 20mm Oerlikon being placed on Perth. She had a Breda that was pinched off the Italians at one point and then had a pair of quad Vicker's 0.5s on the Stern / Quarterdeck. The starboard one of these remains on the wreck today....

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dick wrote:
I dont think your photo shows Perth.


Dick is quite correct. Although I have a picture of an AA gun claiming to be on the quarterdeck of HMAS Perth, the ship has been incorrectly identified and is actually HMS York.

Please disregard my original post.
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 Post subject: HMS Neptune (1941)
PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:18 pm 
I have the Profile Morskie drawings of Neptune as in 1941. Nice looking plans, though I wonder about thee depth of research that produced them, given the brevity of the bibliography in the booklet. Anyway, I have a couple of questions regarding Neptune in this period.
I know she lost her catapult before she was sunk in December 1941, and it was replaced with a quad pom-pom. Before it was removed, what aircraft would have been carried – still the Seafox, or would it have been a Walrus by 1941?
Second, and directly concerning these PM plans they have as the AA armament the useless 0.5 quad Vickers (amazing that the RN was still using these in 1941) in three positions: abreast the mainmast and on B turret. They also show three single AA guns, two abreast the bridge on the foc’s’le deck, and one abaft the mainmast on top of a small windowed structure (?emergency steering position?). Does anyone know what these guns would have been? The booklet says 40mm: is this likely in 1941? They are too big for 20 mm oerlikons: and I’d say too small for 3 inch HA. Could they be single 2 pders? The design in the drawing looks too, well, British, to be a bofors or oerlikon.
There is a large-scale model of Neptune as she was at the time she was sunk, on the HMS Neptune website. This shows a 20mm oerlikon in the aft position, but I think this was added when at the same time they replaced the catapult.
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check these links.
http://www.hmsneptune.com/
http://www.world-war.co.uk/Leander/leander_class.php3


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Many thanks, David.
Very helpful.
Now to come up with some 2pders!

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Hi folks,
I want to build my 1/700 NNT HMAS Perth as Hobart. However, I haven't came across any literature on the subject. Any leads on the subject?

I am also gradually acquiring aftermarket for it. Since the boats do not seem to be the strong part of the kit, I've put my eye onto Admiralty Modelworks ones. Is there any info which types of boats and how many of them did Hobart (or any of her class) carry?


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Hi, Y'all.

Could anyone recommend reference sources, including plans for HMS Achilles &/or Ajax, circa the Graf Spee action?

-Looking at a possible conversion from another Leander-class kit; so both plan and profile views are desired.

Any kits for sale or trade would gladly be considered as well! -pm me

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Cruiser Ajax.
The model presented by Churchill to Hitler in 1935.
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I thought some would be interested in this photo, quite a good one and also very rare indeed.
HMAS Sydney wearing her second camo scheme applied in Sept 41.
Captioned as taken in Geraldton in October 41, one of her very last shots.
This is only the second photo (both port side) of her in this pattern within the public domain.

I have cleaned the photo up, and adjusted the greyscale. It appears on a postcard within the ship history section of the RAN website.


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