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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:15 pm 
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I've been researching the Virginia class for 1/350 modeling purposes and have found very few photos with sufficient detail. There are lots of "portrait" type photos from far away, but those aren't all that useful. Anyone know of any sources of good, closeup photos?

I've always thought these were good looking ships. It's a shame that there's relatively little modeling attention paid to them. JAG (1/700) is the only kit I'm aware of.

When the stern hangars were eliminated, was the the landing area/tie downs plated over or were the the tie downs individually removed in some fashion. It's hard to tell from the existing photos.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 12:15 am 
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Carr,

Ray D. Bean of Sill Motion Photography has a photo CD for sale with CGN photos included on a CD of Tico CGs.

http://www.stillmotionsphotographics.com/-/stillmotionsphotographics/gallery.asp?cat=27957&pID=3&row=15&photoID=3576844

There are also about seven photos of CGNs on the "Ships of Norfolk" CD.

Here are two of the Virginia, herself.

That's the AN/SPS-SEAGULL Radar Array that didn't pan out very well and was scrapped. :heh: :rolf_3:

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 11:31 pm 
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The best place to get photos is the us govement DVIC Defence Visual Information Center

http://www.defenseimagery.mil/index.htm

You do have to be a bit creative with you searchs as they seem to catoulge things a bit strangely


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 9:31 pm 
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Does anyone know of a source of plans for the Virginia class that include hull lines, decks, etc.? The Floating Drydock plan is a simple starboard side profile, nothing else. I've checked the Maryland Silver listing and they have nothing. Any suggestions are appreciated.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:09 pm 
Detailed plans of any nuke ships--whatever type-- are not available from any shipyard or government source as they are still considered CLASSIFIED. Yup. true, even LONG BEACH. No authorative drawings
exist of these ships below the waterline either. Some nice 'renderings' have been seen in past issues of Conways Ships of the World in waaaaaaay back issues when the ships were new, but nothing since.


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Bob, no doubt the accuracy of this would be in question, but it might be able to help you as a starting point:
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Taken from the airbase.ru forum.


Here's a really poor-quality scan from elsewhere:
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Timmy C,

Thanks! As you say, at the very least it's a good start. I can work from it and modify as/if needed.

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Hi, what is the device highlighted in the photo? Do you have other photos that show it from other view angle? It seems that Dragon omits it in their new released kit. Thanks.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:28 am 
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Note: There is a CASF Virginia thread. Moderators may want to considering merging this thread into that.

The elevated platform you've circled actually consists of two separate platforms with the portion to the right being the starboard side platform which just happens to be directly in line with the centerline one. In your photo below, I've put a box around the portion that is the starboard platform and a circle around the centerline platform. The starboard platform is identical to the clearly visible port side one.

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Here is a photo which seems to show the centerline platform. I've also circled the starboard side platform which was lined up directly behind the centerline one in the preceeding photo. In both photos there appears to be at most a small antenna like device on the centerline platform, possibly the same as on the side platforms. I have no idea what the purpose is.

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Most of my Virginia class photos do not seem to show this platform. For example, the next photo shows the area pretty clearly and the platform does not seem to be there. It may be that the platform was added only for a brief period in the Virginia class career or it may have only been added to one particular class member. I'm just speculating.

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So, for modelling purposes, it seems the Virginia class can be modelled with or without the platform and be correct either way. Hope this helped a little.

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I noticed on the pictures with the extra platform that the Virginia has an AN/SPS-40 2D air search radar on the mast, meaning its pre-NTU. Did the later picture get taken after the NTU fit?

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carr wrote:
Note: There is a CASF Virginia thread. Moderators may want to considering merging this thread into that.


Done.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:34 am 
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Seasick wrote:
I noticed on the pictures with the extra platform that the Virginia has an AN/SPS-40 2D air search radar on the mast, meaning its pre-NTU. Did the later picture get taken after the NTU fit?

Good catch! The mystery platform was on Virginia with SPS-40, as you point out, and with CIWS installed. The other photo is of Mississippi with SPS-49 installed (visible on my larger version of the photo). I also have photos of Virginia with SPS-40, no platform, and both with and without CIWS.

So, it seems that the platform existed during the post-CIWS installation but pre-SPS-49. Of course, the other possibility is that the platform was unique to Virginia and did not appear on other class members. Virginia is the only class member that I have photos for that show the platform, however, I have insufficient photos of the other members to draw a definite conclusion. And, unfortunately, I don't have enough photos of Virginia, herself, to "track" the timeline of the platform. I guess it will remain a bit of a mystery unless someone can come up with additional photos.

Thanks for helping, Seasick!

As an aside, I've always thought these were good looking ships and I wish someone would make a 1/350 (or bigger) version. I'm too much of a detail "adder" to be able to work happily with 1/700 kits, no matter how good they are. Oh well, another ship to add to my scratch build list.

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thanks carr for your info. :thumbs_up_1:

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:46 am 
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ingura wrote:
Hi,

I just uploaded two pictures of USS VIRGINIA to this gallery:

http://gallery.me.com/ingura#101211


I can't view the site. Any chance you can post the photos directly here?

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Peter, Navsource has posted your two pictures:
http://www.navsource.org/archives/04/1138/04013815.jpg
http://www.navsource.org/archives/04/1138/04013816.jpg

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Peter,

Thanks for the photos. I can see them through the Nav links.

The photos show Virginia in a pre-CIWS fit and carrying an SPS-40. So, this expands the time frame of the mystery platform. I previously said that the platform existed during the post-CIWS installation but pre-SPS-49. The modified statement is now that the platform existed during the pre-CIWS/SPS-40 period, during some portion of the post-CIWS/SPS-40 period, and disappeared while the CIWS was installed but prior to the fitting of the SPS-49.

Note in the linked photos that the one starboard aft view shows the centerline and port platforms almost, but not quite superimposed (you can see the angled support on the underside of the port platform). It's clear that the mystery centerline platform was a duplicate of the port and starboard ones. The ?antenna? is identical to those. I still don't know what it is, though.

For modelling purposes, the platform should not be present if the SPS-49 is fitted. If the SPS-40 is fitted, the platform can be installed or not, either way being correct. We still haven't seen a photo of one of the other class members with the mystery platform.

Hope this helps.

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A few shots of a 1:72 Virginia R/C built by a modeller in Australia, hopefully they are of some help.

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