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Hey

After I got Box 261's IJN Kasuga kit in 1/350, and its a beauty!, I am searching for materials on it. Especially, I would like to know, whether she ever carried any non-grey-overall livery?

Also, does anyone know any fitting 6" barrels for her? The kits' 6" guns are not uniform in length, the only defect of the kit..
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Hello,
the Kasuga carried the same 6" guns as the Mikasa, so one of the options will be getting the Sea Master's barrels:
http://master-model.pl/index.php?page=s ... 56&lang=en

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Thanks!

Contacted them for a custom set of only 6" barrels, and today he already sent it to me!
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The only exception from grey scheme that I have seen was of Moreno (later Nisshin) in overall white (or,less likely, very light grey) during machinery trials. There is this postcard: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_cruiser_Nishin in black and white Victorian scheme but it might be either a hand coloured photo or a painting. I, personnaly, don't consider it as any sort of proof.
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Well, thats sad, I would have loved to make her in a black-white or buff scheme... But, I guess she would look impressive in gray, too! But, which shade of gray is correct? Any suggestions, preferrably in modelmaster enamels?
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Kasuga could not be done as preWWI Italian navy G. Garibaldi with green color scheme?

with modified turrets, upper works, and secondaries, as Spanish C. Colon? black/buff paint.
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Felix C wrote:Kasuga could not be done as preWWI Italian navy G. Garibaldi with green color scheme?

with modified turrets, upper works, and secondaries, as Spanish C. Colon? black/buff paint.
The conversion to an Italian ship should be possible. The main differences appear to be the open bridge (in their early fit).

I like this Morskaja Kollektisja volume as reference:
http://www.Links to this site not allowed due to copyright violations./Magazin ... /index.htm
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Using the last link you find profiles showing the difference between Varese and Nisshin.

At least the Italian ships and Kasuga had a very similar armament.

Cristobal Colon not only had different turrets, but also a different secondary armament consisting of 10 x 15,2 cm and 6 x 12 cm (the four Argentinian ships had the same secondary armament).
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You know on this site, there is a BOX261 Kasuga converted to a Spanish Cristobal Colon.

Rather nice and detailed conversion. Builder indicates mods. necessary.
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Hey

I tried to search the gallery, but I did not find it?

Small update on my Kasuga - I received my barrels from Master, and these are fantastic ;)
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Able: Those shots leave me breathless. Neat as a pin!
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Agreed - she's a beauty!!!
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Hi PetrO

Let me jump into this thread too, since I am working on IJN pre-ww1 cruiser. I have question in regards to color way of 1890's

From I have seen on internet, IJN color are white body, gun, gun shield, railing, yellow funnel, mast, vent, with thin black line on deck line.

and for deck color, I am thinking to use WEM IJN deck color. any advice?

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That depends mrwawa... photos of Japanese "light cruisers" indeed show them with white hull but most armored cruisers did have black hull.
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Some rare footage of IJN ships as well as Mikasa museum today in this Varyag documentary

http://video.yandex.ru/users/ya-ertata/ ... odia&cid=4#
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Hi Darius

Thanks, I know. currently I have pictures of Naniwa in Black hull and White hull.. .very confusing... but I am focusing the model on 1896 war with China. I presume it is white hull. any input?


Hi mermaid... I love the film, thank you... NOW Cruiser Varyag.. will be on my list.. (to build)
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I think white hull would be ok mrwawa but I can't be sure about that. I have lost some files in hard disk crash and painting schemes of early IJN was one of them...
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mrwawa wrote:Hi Darius

Thanks, I know. currently I have pictures of Naniwa in Black hull and White hull.. .very confusing... but I am focusing the model on 1896 war with China. I presume it is white hull. any input?


Hi mermaid... I love the film, thank you... NOW Cruiser Varyag.. will be on my list.. (to build)
White hull is correct for 1896.

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Thank you Peter

now, i am on to funnel and mast... according to the modelkrak it's wire copper??!!, and other model done by japanese it's in yellow...

what color could it be?

again thanks.. :smallsmile:
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