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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:39 am 
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the Southampton class was 591.5' oa not 558' as that was her waterline length. https://www.world-war.co.uk/Southampton ... class.php3
will be converting the airfix 1/600 Belfast into the Southampton plus at least 1 ship each of the Fiji, Ceylon & Swiftsure classes. already lengthened & widen 2 airfix 1/600 Ajax into the York & Exeter. in the larger scale I'm kitbashing Revell's 1/429 scale Arizona into the us navy's old battleships from the Wyoming class to the Colorado class.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:12 am 
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There is a 1/350 kit of HMS Sheffield by Iron Shipwright:
http://ironshipwrights.com/pages/Sheffield.html

This is the correct class, you would only rebuilt her to the 1944 fit.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:13 pm 
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maxim wrote:
There is a 1/350 kit of HMS Sheffield by Iron Shipwright:
http://ironshipwrights.com/pages/Sheffield.html

This is the correct class, you would only rebuilt her to the 1944 fit.


Thanks for the reply. Looks like I will have to save up some money to buy that kit. Really hate to spend that much money but for a diorama of this magnitude I rather have it correct.

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the Southampton class was 591.5' oa not 558' as that was her waterline length. https://www.world-war.co.uk/Southampton ... class.php3
will be converting the airfix 1/600 Belfast into the Southampton plus at least 1 ship each of the Fiji, Ceylon & Swiftsure classes. already lengthened & widen 2 airfix 1/600 Ajax into the York & Exeter. in the larger scale I'm kitbashing Revell's 1/429 scale Arizona into the us navy's old battleships from the Wyoming class to the Colorado class.
viewtopic.php?f=59&t=165105


Ah, I was going by the only source I found last night which stated 558' as her length.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 4:01 pm 
Does anyone know where I might get hold of a 1/350 plastic kit of HMS Sheffield C24? My dad served on her from 1953 including the Coronation tour of the West Indies in 1954. I bought the Trumpeter model of HMS Belfast but realised that they are just too different, as you have all noted. Also, does anyone know if the Crown Colony light cruisers are a better match; specifically HMS Jamaica as she seems to look more like Sheffield than Belfast does! I tried to get models of his other ships including HMS Morecambe Bay on which he served in the Malayan Emergency and Korea, as well as HMS Duchess on which he saw service in the Suez crisis. I know there's an old 1/700 Airfix based waterline kit of Duchess but I like 1/350 full hull kits. We've built and owned the Airfix Daring kits in the 1960's. Modifying kits is a bit beyond my interest ... my skills are in the paint, and I usually do 1/35 British armour.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 11:15 am 
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Belfast is actually the only plastic 1/350 RN cruiser kit available right now, so no, unfortunately.

Your other option is the resin Iron Shipwrights kit of the Sheffield in her 1941 configuration: http://ironshipwrights.com/pages/Sheffield.html

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 12:59 pm 
Thanks Timmy C,

The Ironside model isn't available at the moment ... which isn't a problem as I really don't like resin and the price is crazy! Oh well, the Belfast will do ... most people won't know! Thanks for your help.

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Hi Ron,

You can find a good plan of HMS Sheffield here: http://navymuseum.co.nz/plans-maps-and-charts/, I believe a conversion of the Belfast model should be doable too.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:48 am 
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Being partway through just such a conversion in 1/600 scale, I suggest that the key problems would be the removal of the bulges on the Belfast hull, the narrowing of the hull, and the differences in the bridge structure. I know that it can and has been done (if in 1/600, with the help of a Tiger hull) but it isn't as easy as it might seem at first.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:56 am 
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wouldn't use the tiger hull as missing 2 props as should be 4 props not 2 plus have to add to the stern as tiger's stern has transom whereas Sheffield does not.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 11:24 am 
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DavidP wrote:
wouldn't use the tiger hull as missing 2 props as should be 4 props not 2 plus have to add to the stern as tiger's stern has transom whereas Sheffield does not.


Pretty sure Tiger had 4 shafts (Wikipedia) and IIRC the Airfix model had four.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 11:27 am 
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I spliced the rear of the Belfast's hull onto the Tiger - with considerable help from plasticard, filling and filing. Despite this, I feel that was better than cutting Belfast into three bits and removing all the bulges. Fitting the deck doesn't look too bad but I've yet to find the best way to alter the superstructures, where required.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:19 pm 
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Gernot, I know the real ship has 4 props but the model does not. I have 2 built tigers 1 that I modified into the helicopter cruiser version back in the late 70's early 80's & they both have 2 props each. instructions that show only 2 props as that area is shaped wrong for 4 props as in too narrow.
The bilge keels are missing, as are two of the four propellers. http://www.modelerjoe.net/shipmodellist ... irfixTiger

Graham, I wouldn't worry about .76mm difference between Belfast & Southampton beam. when I do my Southampton, i'll cut out 11mm out of the midships to shorten the hull then glue the 2 halves back together like I'm doing to the USS Texas & USS Arkansas using the Revell 1/429 scale Arizona as a base. viewtopic.php?f=59&t=165105
the Belfast bulges i'll grind down with the dremel, trim the holes & fill in with 1mm sheet plastic to give me depth for shaping.


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[quote="DavidP"]Gernot, I know the real ship has 4 props but the model does not. I have 2 built tigers 1 that I modified into the helicopter cruiser version back in the late 70's early 80's & they both have 2 props each. instructions that show only 2 props as that area is shaped wrong for 4 props as in too narrow.
The bilge keels are missing, as are two of the four propellers. http://www.modelerjoe.net/shipmodellist ... irfixTiger

Whew, that is a blunder I would not have expected from Airfix (and my memory is faulty too, no surprise there!).

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