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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 10:51 am 
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Thanks - sure, but where did it go while underway?

(I also added a second question above about the range finder a minute ago)

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:51 pm 
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I agree about the ladders, that would be a logical place. Just cannot find any photo showing them there.
I mean the range finder covered with canvas on this photo. Thanks!


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Sorry for not expressing myself clearly. I am trying to find out what that range finder looked like .

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This is my first trip to this forum. I am attempting Trumpeter's 1/350 San Francisco, planning the build timeframe around Cape Esperance-Battle of Guadalcanal, but likely before the battle damage from the plane. I bought the WEM PE set for New Orleans class based on recommendations I found online, and somehow got a copy of the Abbey New Orleans guide which was all I could find. I would like to use some of the 3D details that are now available, but don't wish to order without more definitive answers to three questions:

1. What ship's boats were carried in mid-1942? The WEM instructions indicate the kit parts are incorrect. My best guess from photos are 2 launches and 4 whale boats, but I can't determine sizes.
2. What size were the Carley floats?
3. Which model were the 20mm Oerlikons? Mk2, Mk4?

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

Never mind. I found what I needed.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 1:56 pm 
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I am working on building a model of Tuscaloosa to go with my Wasp model depicting the carrier in November 1941 at Hvalfjord. The photographs Jeff Sharp posted on page 35 are very helpful but too indistinct to determine some specific details of the light anti-aircraft armament.

From the table Rick Davis posted on page 33 it seems safe to conclude that the tubs for the quadruple 1.1-inch guns were installed by September 1, 1941, but that Tuscaloosa was not scheduled to receive the weapons themselves until a November regular overhaul at New York. This raises several questions:

Were the 1.1-inch guns in place by the time Tuscaloosa was in Iceland?

How many 1.1-inch guns was Tuscaloosa to receive?

Where were the tubs fitted? Jeff Sharp’s images show that two were on the battle lookout & machine gun platform on the forward superstructure, presumably replacing the four 0.5-inch machine guns previously there. Tuscaloosa’s other four 0.5-inch guns had been on the after 8-inch director platform. Did a pair of 1.1-inch weapons replace them (it’s not clear from Jeff Sharp’s images)? Photographs of Tuscaloosa four or five months later do show tubs in that position. They also show tubs on the quarterdeck, so were there to be six such weapons?

What happened to the 0.5-inch machine guns while Tuscaloosa was waiting for the installation of the 1.1-inch weapons? Assuming the report is accurate, Tuscaloosa did not temporarily fit 3-inch guns in their place.

Finally, what and where was the sky lookout whose supports are shown to have been installed by September 1?

I’ve been through all 37 pages of the CASF and could not find the answers there, so I’m hoping the array of experts who have contributed know the answers.

Thank you all in advance.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2023 8:53 pm 
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I've been putting together a list of movements for the heavy ships in the Atlantic from May 41 through Mar 42, and been following this and the New Mexico class thread as BatDiv-3 and CruDiv-7 feature prominently in anything dealing with Iceland during the "shoot on sight" period up to the PHA. I'm sure the poster meant October for Wasp since, for the whole month of November, she was in "Bermuda and vicinity."


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2023 12:52 pm 
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maurice de saxe wrote:
Were the 1.1-inch guns in place by the time Tuscaloosa was in Iceland?

It is not clear when the 1.1's were installed. Photos suggest she had 3" guns in the upper bridge tubs into 1942, but the shots are not clear enough to be definitive.

maurice de saxe wrote:
How many 1.1-inch guns was Tuscaloosa to receive?

Eventually, she received 4 mounts. Two on the upper bridge and two on the quarterdeck. But photos of early 1942, in the MS-12 MOD paint scheme seem to indicate that the quarterdeck tubs were empty.

maurice de saxe wrote:
Where were the tubs fitted? Jeff Sharp’s images show that two were on the battle lookout & machine gun platform on the forward superstructure, presumably replacing the four 0.5-inch machine guns previously there.

The two tubs on the forward machinegun platform displaced the .50's rather than replaced them. The 1.1's were additional rather than replacements. The .50's were eventually replaced by 20MM guns.

maurice de saxe wrote:
Tuscaloosa’s other four 0.5-inch guns had been on the after 8-inch director platform. Did a pair of 1.1-inch weapons replace them (it’s not clear from Jeff Sharp’s images)? Photographs of Tuscaloosa four or five months later do show tubs in that position. They also show tubs on the quarterdeck, so were there to be six such weapons?

No 1.1 tubs were ever installed on the after superstructure. Any tubs there were for 20MM guns. When 40MM guns replaced the 1.1's, tubs were installed on the hangar roof. That brought the total number of quad 40MM to 6 mounts. The quad 40MM was heavy enough that the forward mounts on the bridge had to be at a lower level, requiring the bridge wings to be cut back. But there were only 4 1.1 mounts installed before their replacement.

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What happened to the 0.5-inch machine guns while Tuscaloosa was waiting for the installation of the 1.1-inch weapons?

The forward .50's were relocated, but I am not sure exactly where. The after .50's remained in place until replaced by 20MM guns.

maurice de saxe wrote:
Assuming the report is accurate, Tuscaloosa did not temporarily fit 3-inch guns in their place.

Photos seem to indicate 3" guns forward. But since the quarterdeck tubs were empty in early 1942, it is unclear if 3" mounts were ever installed there.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2023 3:37 pm 
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Thank you very much for your thoughtful reply. I must admit I am equally baffled about the new locations for the displaced forward machine guns as there is no space at their original location once the tub is in place and there does not seem to be a visible additional platform added elsewhere in the vicinity.

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