Calling all Knox and Spanish Baleares class FF fans

nick · **Posted:** Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:41 am

Your Brewton is looking very nice indeed Tony! :thumbs_up_1:

I'm just wondering, What is the hatch on the stern just below the flag?

http://www.navsource.org/archives/06/06021076.htm

Nick

nick · **Posted:** Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:00 am

Thanks for reminding me DBC but I rebuilt the hull and everything since I'm not pleased with it's results and I didn't use soctch tape this time, I'm now using CA glue and no more tape and your right DBC it really leaves a line which I experienced in the Belknap.

And to answer your question about who taught me to scratchbuild... almost... NO ONE!!. I'm just inspired by those scratchbuilding modelers like Bill, ARH, DAVE and more. So I started it step by step and my first step in scratchbuilding is through paper first

Thanks again DBC and kidcurrie

Willie · **Posted:** Fri Jun 22, 2007 2:21 pm

It is the hatch for the VDS (Variable Depth Sonar, I think), which is towed at times to get the receiver below layers of cold / hot water, and have a better contact.
Very best regards,

Willie.

Willie · **Posted:** Fri Jun 22, 2007 2:26 pm

Tony,

The model is really coming, and coming with outstanding quality. Keep pics coming too.
Brgds,

Willie.

Tony Bunch · **Posted:** Fri Jun 22, 2007 9:53 pm

Hi Guys,
Willie,
Thanks.
Looks like a pair of FFG's heh?
Or......are they DEG's........?
Or......are they DDG's..........?
I see the Mk13 single rail missile launcher, and looks like an SPS-52 radar atop the mack.
Francisco,
Yes, pics of SPS-52 please, as I will be making one of my own for my 1/96 DDG.
That's make a nice conversion.
More pics?
Tony

nick · **Posted:** Sat Jun 23, 2007 4:05 am

I'm now making the guns, the chocks and the bollards by now but I still don't have photos. To show you the concept on how the model looks like, here's a drawing...

I made the MACK after the hull using John's (kidcurrie42) template for the MACK and some plastic rod and photo-etching

Photos will be posted by next week :smallsmile:

Nick

Foeth: temporarily continued here: http://www.shipmodels.info/mwphpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=23444

Jimmy Conway · **Posted:** Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:53 pm

Hi Pachi, Hi Tony, Hi all!!!
Ok Pachi, nice friend you are spending your time for us, thanks for the effort, and wait anxious for the pics!!!!!

Francisco P. de Nanclares wrote:

Hi all.

For Jimmy Conway and Tony Bunch, and those who may be interested: I snapped some more pictures of the antenna and took some measurements. I will try to upload them at Photobucket or some other server. Will advise when ready.

Cheers.
Pachi.

Jimmy Conway · **Posted:** Sat Jun 23, 2007 11:11 pm

Tony, your model is going very nice.... keep coming those pics!!!

Michael Potter · **Posted:** Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:44 am

The photo of ex-USS Fanning at her change of ownership shows the doors in the transom typical of the SQR-18 towed array sonar. SQR-18 is or was passive only. Its wet end was a long, thin, flexible tube containing hydrophones that collectively detected long-wavelength (thus low-frequency) acoustic patterns.

The larger plate sealed the original larger port for the SQS-35 variable-depth sonar. SQS-35 was active only. Its wet end was a large, heavy, fish-shaped transducer.

The photo of Asturias (F74) shows the same port, evidently for the SQR-18. That is interesting because Combat Fleets of the World does not list SQR-18 among her sensors. Combat Fleets of the World says that her SQS-35A was "updated" but from the photo I'd say that the SQS-35 was removed.

The photo of F74 also shows that the Mk 25 torpedo tubes have been deleted or were never installed. The design provided for 2 Mk 25 TT to fire through ports in the transom, to one side of the VDS compartment. I thought it was the port side.

Strictly speaking the Spanish ships have Mk 22 launchers (16 rounds), not Mk 13 (40 rounds).

Francisco P. de Nanclares · **Posted:** Sun Jun 24, 2007 12:04 pm

Hi all, Mike.

As far as I know, the ASW sensor inside the transom hatch was the SQS 35, not for the SQR 18. You are right on the torpedo tubes, however. They were removed to gain space for quarters.

Cheers.
Pachi.

nick · **Posted:** Sat Jul 07, 2007 9:49 am

Hi

Since this post is about the Knox class, I would just like to show you my model in progress.

And oserving the photo of the Fanning and Asturias, They have different hatches in the stern

Willie · **Posted:** Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:22 pm

Nick,

Keep your pics coming. The mack needs some improving yet, but man, I wish I was able to do this when I was your age, and I wish you were one of the students in my class :good_job:

!!!
Very best regards,

Willie.

nick · **Posted:** Sat Jul 07, 2007 7:47 pm

Thanks Willie

The MACK does need some improving due to its size and shape. :heh:

I'll send more soon and keep those pics coming Tony with your Brewton! It's looking very gooooooddddd!!!!! :thumbs_up_1:

Tony Bunch · **Posted:** Sat Jul 07, 2007 8:50 pm

Hi Guys,
Nick,
Your model looks great!
I've never attempted a complete scratch build..........yet!
I admire your, "can do", attitude.
I'd say..."can did"!
I know, I know....poor English!
The Brewton is stalled for 3 weeks now, as I have switched on my 1/700 Dragon Arizona. The pics so far are on the, "at em' Arizona Fans" thread.
Take care, and I'll be back.........soon!
Tony

nick · **Posted:** Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:18 pm

Hi Tony!

Thanks and your Arizona is getting even better! I hope You would return to your Brewton.

Willie here are more pics

More photos in this link:
http://www.shipmodels.info/mwphpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=23444

Tony Bunch · **Posted:** Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:24 pm

Hi Guys,
Nick,
Good work!
I'm baaaaaaaaaaack!
I finished my 1/700 Arizona and now I'm back to the 1/350th Knox FF.
I'll post pics when there's something halfway exciting!
Be well Gents, and I'll talk to yous....soon!
TonyB

Tony Bunch · **Posted:** Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:23 pm

Hi Guys,
Here is, "halfway exciting", and I hope you guys like!
After masking for one hour and painting for 10 minutes, here's what the non-skid areas of the fantail look like.
The cruisebook from Brewton WestPac 1976-77 did have some images showing most of the fantail area and this is what I copied onto the WEM 1/350 FF model. I did notice the model is missing three closed chocks on the fantail alone. I believe I might have this solved.......soon!

I'll be taking small bites out of finishing the non-skid areas of the decks, as there is still more to do. And, "that's the way the cookie crumbles"!
After the non-skid areas are all finished, I'll paint the rest of the haze grey. After that, I'll decal the deck areas that need decaling. That's going far enough ahead for now!
Tony

nick · **Posted:** Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:10 pm

Hi Tony!
Here is my progress on my Peary

Hope you and anyone or everyone who sees this model will like it!

BTW, your Brewton is looking marvelously marvelous! especially that masking!

:good_job:

Nick

Tony Bunch · **Posted:** Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:47 pm

Hi Guys,
Nick,
Your model looks great!
Keep it up!
Best laid plans............can still have pitfalls!
After having such good fortune with the non-skid application on the stern, I had some paint peel off in other areas. Talk about frustration! I primered the entire model before painting, just to keep this from happening..........see pic....

In the midships area, I had more peel off when going to phase 2 of the non-skid application. I thought I was on a roll! I already have to re-paint some of the deck, so I changed my mind and decided to paint all of the haze grey areas instead. I'll get back to the deck area non-skid soon enough.
I reasoned that if I will have any more peel off coming my way, then the last color applied should be the non-skid instead of the haze grey. I paint the deck areas first, as they are usually easier to mask over before painting the vertcal surfaces. Logically, the next stage would be to paint the non-skid areas, (still the deck), and then paint the haze grey last.
The entire hull exterior is now haze grey. I will be finishing up the haze grey areas above the main deck next. Then, I'll get back to finishing the non-skid.
Here is some of the Brewton in her exterior haze grey color.......before a little weathering.......not there yet!

It's Labor Day, and I'll be going to work shortly!
TonyB

alan paxton · **Joined:** Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:46 am **Posts:** 2

hi there does any one what paint code or colour that i can use for the spanish navy, as i am trying to match the colour for my 1/72 warship. regards AL

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