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I had a member IM me this morning asking about this; I apologize that I wasn't able to respond or get your identity, but here we go!

This thread, is of course, for all fans of the DDG-51 class of US Navy Destroyer. Panda released a couple plastic kits in 1/350th, as did Blue Water Navy (picked up by Yankee Modelworks), and Dragon will apparently be repopping the Panda kits soon. Both Pit Road and Dragon released Burke Class models in 1/700th scale

Classic Warships has a recently released book on the class with tons of good photographs and information.

Burke Model Reviews:
* 1/350th Panda DDG-51 Arleigh Burke
* 1/700th Pit Road DDG-54 Curtis Wilbur
* 1/700th Dragon DDG-89 USS Mustin

Built-up Burkes in the Gallery:

1/96 Scale
DDG-52 Barry: Paul Simpson's RC using a Scale Shipyard Hull
DDG-68 The Sullivans: Don Macdonald's Scratch-build

1/350 Scale
DDG-51 Arleigh Burke: Don Murphy's Yankee Modelworks
DDG-52 Barry: Luciano Rizzato's Panda
DDG-53 John Paul Jones: Lim Kian Seng's Panda and John McLaughlin's Panda
DDG-54 Curtis Wilbur: Dave Becker's Panda
DDG-55 Stout: Chris Bradbury's Panda
DDG-67 Cole: Steve Hurrell's Panda
DDG-68 The Sullivans: Jaime Campbell's Yankee Modelworks
DDG-69 Milius: John McLaughlin's Panda
DDG-81 Winston Churchill: Richard April's Panda

1/700 Scale
DDG-51 Arleigh Burke: Douglas Chan's Pit Road
DDG-54 Curtis Wilbur: Douglas K. L. Chan's Pit Road
DDG-67 Cole: Paul Helfrich's DML
DDG-80 Roosevelt: Hanchang Kuo's DML
DDG-92 Momsen: Vittorio Ditto's DML
DDG-93 Chung Hoon: Yves Beaulande's DML

Navy Newstand Photos:

DDG-51 Arleigh Burke:
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=5114
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=6025
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=7979
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=25422
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=34394
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=25423

DDG-52 Barry:
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=13773
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=13774
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=23515
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=23516
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=23514
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=23519
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=23624
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=36807
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=36836
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=36880

DDG-53 John Paul Jones
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=15588
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=16169
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=24469
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=25874
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=28821
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=39760

DDG-54 Curtis Wilbur:
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=33877
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=34988
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=34991
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=35270
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=35271
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=37469

DDG-55 Stout:
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=397
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=1423
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=34917
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=33989
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=33812
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=23939

DDG-56 McCain:
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=40063
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=39903

DDG-62 Fitzgerald
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=25587
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=25586

DDG-63 Stethem
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=34988
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=35271
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=36080
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=36215
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=40236
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=40296
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=40136
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=40415
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=40458


DDG-71 Ross:
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=40594
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=40584

DDG-74 McFaul
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=1423
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=35167
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=34032

DDG-76 Higgins
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=39590
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=29763
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=24145

DDG-89 Mustin:
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=40064
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=39903

If you want to search for others go to the main Navy Galleries page and enter the hull number in paratethis without a dash (such as "(ddg 51)") and check "exact" and it will pick up photos of just that ship.

and that, everyone, is how you start off a CASF thread right!

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 7:43 pm 
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There's also;

1/350 Scale
DDG-51 Arleigh Burke: Marty Shay's Panda and Steve Brejnak's Panda
DDG-84 USS Bulkely: J.H. Kang's Panda
USS Mustin DDG-89: Dave Becker's Panda

1/700 Scale
DDG-54 Curtis Wilbur: Patrizio Carlucci's Revell Germany
USS Cole DDG-67: Jeff Herne's Skywave

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Here are some more official US Navy photos of USS Arliegh Burke Class destroyers from Navy NewsStand.

Warning to dial-up users: large files, LONG DOWNLOAD TIMES.

USS Arleigh Burke (DDG 51)
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 5R-077.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 0C-001.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 1B-005.jpg

USS Barry (DDG 52)
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 3E-017.jpg

USS John Paul Jones (DDG 53)
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 3Q-850.jpg

USS Curtis Wilbur (DDG 54)
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 6S-093.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 6S-052.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 6S-020.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 6S-027.jpg

USS Stout (DDG 55)
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 2H-003.jpg

USS LaBoon (DDG 58 )
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 2E-003.jpg

USS Mitscher (DDG 57)
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 8L-001.jpg

USS Russell (DDG 59)
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 8G-002.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 9M-003.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 9M-001.jpg

USS Ramage (DDG 61)
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 0F-007.jpg

USS Fitzgerald (DDG 62)
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 7C-002.jpg

USS Stethem (DDG 63)
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 0X-001.jpg

USS Benfold (DDG 65)
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 2G-002.jpg

USS Cole (DDG 67)
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 0X-002.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 0X-002.jpg

USS Milius (DDG 69)
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 5M-010.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 5M-012.jpg

USS Hopper (DDG 70)
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 9M-003.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 9M-002.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 4S-006.jpg

USS Ross (DDG 71)
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 4S-001.jpg

USS Donald Cook (DDG 75)
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 5R-001.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 1B-002.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 1B-002.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 5P-501.jpg

USS Higgins (DDG 76)
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 1M-002.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 4M-001.jpg

USS O’Kane (DDG 77)
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 4W-004.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 1B-006.jpg

USS Howard (DDG 83)
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 1C-143.jpg

USS Bulkeley (DDG 84)
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 9A-012.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 9A-002.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 9A-001.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 9A-005.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 9A-001.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 9A-002.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 9A-006.jpg

USS Shoup (DDG 86)
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 0X-007.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 0X-006.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 2B-002.jpg

USS Preble (DDG 88 )
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 9P-001.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 4H-001.jpg

USS Mustin (DDG 89)
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 9D-083.jpg


USS Chafee (DDG 90)
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 8G-003.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 9M-003.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 5T-049.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 5T-039.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 8G-005.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 8G-003.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 7C-060.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 8G-008.jpg

USS Chung-Hoon (DDG 93)
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 0I-011.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 8G-035.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 8G-015.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 9M-002.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 9M-001.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 9M-017.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 8G-001.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 6B-064.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 7F-063.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 7M-013.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 8G-015.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 8G-002.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 9M-003.jpg

USS James E. Williams (DDG 95)
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 8B-002.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 3J-003.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 3J-002.jpg

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I'm sad to say that I haven't touched my 1/700 Mustin, since the review.

But as Maxim pointed out it appears that the hangar deck is too long and the hangar bay too short..

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Ouch! I would have never known...

So the Flight II kits are out of scale, how about the standard DDG51 ship kits?


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The rest of the Flight I kits still have a too large helo deck, but it isnt as noticeable as on the flight IIAs. Really the issue is that the main deck extends further aft into the helo deck on the port side on the real ship. I would go to this pic to see the issue.

http://www.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=31767

On the Skywave/Dragon kits, the starboard helo deck wall is in its right position, but the portside wall should extend 1/4 inch further aft.

http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/sh ... -54-03.jpg

Again, its much more minor than the Flight IIA and I'm not planning on fixing my Cole to be that way. I did, however repair my two IIAs by extending the hangar over the weekend. Wasnt too hard to do.


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hey Tracy,
just in case you wanted to know i sent you a IM on Oct 30th about making calling all ship fans thread for the burke. I did not create it cause i saw the USN destroyer thread and did not want to viloate thread rules.

I am building the USS Cole 1/350 by panda. I have stopped on it for the moment because i want to get the classic warship pictoral on it. I also have the flagship PE set to add to it.

now to go order "the book"


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Discovery Channel has an excellent one hour documentary called Destroyer Forged in Steel. It shows the construction of the Chafee, with all kinds of filming of the ship in dry dock, during sea trials, etc. I saw it in HD, and it was amazing...


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Just let me add that I commissioned USS Paul Hamilton DDG 60 and I am a plankowner. Served 2 1/2 years on board as a Chief. So, I think I can be a good reference for allot of folks. Great class of ship to be on.


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I just saw an excerpt from a Janes article that the Burkes are having structural problems with their bows, and a program has been started to stiffen them. Anyone else hear this?


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Since this is an Arleigh Burke class thread, I'm gonna put photos in it.
I'm in the process of scratchbuilding USS McCampbell DDG-85 in 1/350. I absolutely have no idea if I will use some photoetching or not.

As of this time I'm still drawing plans for the ship. As a kid, I don't know anything about scaling up plans but I only have here a 1/700 plan though.

This is going to be a VERY exciting build for me

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Q: How did Paul build a FLT I Cole out of a FLT II Mustin kit? I am interested in doing the same conversion.


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Q: How did Paul build a FLT I Cole out of a FLT II Mustin kit? I am interested in doing the same conversion


That is interesting!
(I just hope Paul would see your question :big_grin: !)

Well here is my progress of my McCampbell. I will be using leftover railings, and lots of copper wire. As what I had said, I don't have exact 1:350 plans so I'm not sure if the model is scaled to 1:350.

The hull is made of paper and is sprayed with red for flaws to be checked.

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Next will be detailing the bow and stern.
(I got your PM Foeth. thanks though)

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Looking good, Nick!

Beautifully big 1/72 scale USS Winston Churchill:

http://wmunderway.8m.com/gallery52/gallery52.htm

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Well, here is my progress.

The bridge is shown here:

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More soon

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Anyone have any problems attaching the front deck of the Dragon Arleigh Burke kit?It doesn't seem to sit right the rear does but I already glued it once and removed it so I'm just wondering is it just me or is the hull warped?


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Here is my progress so far...

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As I haved observed, McCampbell doesn't have a CIWS and my dome arrangements are all wrong! This could result with some serious rebuilding.

Here are the other progress I have been doing yesterday
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For me, the mast the most challenging, using lots of very tiny pieces of wire making the yardarms.
My modern scratchbuilt fleet with Mike Ashey's "Basics of Ship Modeling"
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Question on the color of the SPY-1 radar panels. Most of the pics seem to show them lighter than the adjacent surfaces, but some seem to be the same.

So, is it a different color? If so, what color? Or is it just a matter of it being the same as the rest of the vertical surfaces and it fades faster due to being on the dielectric panels? :scratch:

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The picture you have above of the real DDG shows the correct color I'm familiar with from my time on an AEGIS cruiser. They might have changed the color since then, but I don't know why they would do that.

It should not be the same color as the ship; the ship is painted haze gray, the radar face is not painted for obvious reasons. It's a pale gray, kind of reminded me of a concrete sidewalk. The entire face is a rubberized covering over the many radar emitters underneath. Whenever the SPY techs would have to inspect or replace emitters they'd cut through the covering, do repairs, and then repair the cover with a silicon compound much like gray RTV.

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The rest of the Flight I kits still have a too large helo deck, but it isnt as noticeable as on the flight IIAs. Really the issue is that the main deck extends further aft into the helo deck on the port side on the real ship. I would go to this pic to see the issue.

http://www.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=31767

On the Skywave/Dragon kits, the starboard helo deck wall is in its right position, but the portside wall should extend 1/4 inch further aft.

http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/sh ... -54-03.jpg

Again, its much more minor than the Flight IIA and I'm not planning on fixing my Cole to be that way. I did, however repair my two IIAs by extending the hangar over the weekend. Wasnt too hard to do.


Blandcorporation,

Have you any photos of your extended hangar bays on your IIAs? I'll have to do the same thing on my Mustin kit to replicate the Sampson DDG-102

I am so, glad that this issue was pointed out. I definately would have overlooked it. I was, however, somewhat confused when looking at this aerial view of the Sampson and the larger gap between the deck edge and the "box" aft of the aft VLS launcher than what is on the model.

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Does anyone know what the pair of large retangular objects (port and stbd) are aft of, and on the same platform as, the chaff launchers on the IIAs?

There are some nice photos of the Sampson on
http://www.homeportmodels.com/gallery.html

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