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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:41 pm 
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USS PAUL F. FOSTER (DD-964)
Sydney, Australia September 1986 http://www.navsource.org/archives/05/pix1/0596418.jpg
May 12 1991 in Hong Kong Harbor http://www.navsource.org/archives/05/pix1/0596407.jpg
Vancouver September 7 1999 http://www.navsource.org/archives/05/pix1/0596414.jpg
At Port Hueneme, California, May 29 2005 http://www.navsource.org/archives/05/pix1/0596445.jpg


Hi David, thank you !

This is my next "strategy". When all possibilities for get Spruance images run out, I will try to get the pictures of the DD-964 in the same period of time I need.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:45 pm 
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SumGui wrote:
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Hello all

I have some issues, specificly about the first ship of the Spruance-class, the own USS Spruance (DD 963).

In my research, I realized that the VLS was introduced in a refit circa 1986. And I have a picture of the Spruance in which the ship still had the black masts, circa 1990. On the other hand, I have another image, circa 1991, in which the vessel didn't have the black mast anymore (I don't know how to add images in this kind of forum to exemplify because my pictures are in my computer, not in Instagram, Facebook, etc.).

That is, I think that there were some structural improvements in a "1991 second major refit", but I didn't find documentation or images to support such hypothesis.

In this "1991 refit", the masts got the same color of the superstructure between 1990 and 1991. This is one of my issues: I wonder when and why.

Other issue: how was the aft part of the superstructure, on board (above the hangar) ? Because, in the 1980's pictures, there were a few structures in this part. In the 2000's pictures, this part of the ship seems to have much more details (e.g., the Phalanx CIWS wasn't in a "plataform" like the 2000's pictures).

Anyone can help me with this issues ?



There was a separate refit which altered the Hangar - it was expanded to handle the SH-60 helicopter (LAMPS III), which is larger than the SH-2 (LAMPS I) the Spruance class handled on original build. The hangar was expanded to match the hull side to gain width.

So you are not seeing things, the hangar did change at a refit separate from the VLS fitting.

However, the change in color of the stacks was for the reasons mentioned in posts above, and was not a function of the refit, but it did happen at nearly the same time in many cases.


That's interesting, thank you for the information. Unfortunately I think that there's not details (even, images) about this hangar refit.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:04 pm 
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October 16 2004 http://www.navsource.org/archives/05/pix2/0596399.jpg hanger is full width of hull.
March 28 1991 http://www.navsource.org/archives/05/pix1/0596334.jpg

USS HAYLER (DD-997)
May 1992 http://www.navsource.org/archives/05/pix1/0599722.jpg
July 10 1994 http://www.navsource.org/archives/05/pix1/0599727.jpg
January 29 1997 http://www.navsource.org/archives/05/pix1/0599756.jpg

USS PAUL F. FOSTER (DD-964)
September 7 1999 http://www.navsource.org/archives/05/pix1/0596414.jpg

USS KINKAID (DD-965)
June 17, 2002 http://www.navsource.org/archives/05/pix1/0596509.jpg


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:55 pm 
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DavidP wrote:


Very thanks again, David !

I've already downloaded the new images in my computer.

Alex


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:26 pm 
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this is the site I'm getting them from. http://www.navsource.org/
I have about 4+ models of the 1/350 scale Spruances that I'm slowly working on to show the different variances in configuration plus about an equal numbers of the aegis cruisers to do the same & also do the 1st & last ships of the Kidd class ddg.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:06 pm 
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DavidP wrote:
this is the site I'm getting them from. http://www.navsource.org/
I have about 4+ models of the 1/350 scale Spruances that I'm slowly working on to show the different variances in configuration plus about an equal numbers of the aegis cruisers to do the same & also do the 1st & last ships of the Kidd class ddg.


Wow! I'm trying to build only one ship of this class and I almost have no time, I can't imagine how is to deal with more models.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:17 pm 
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plus also kitbashing 16 Revell 1/429 scale USS Arizona into the OBB's(old battleships) of WW2. viewtopic.php?f=59&t=165105


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Does anyone know what that hexagonal shaped structure is?


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Here you go: https://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/docs/aemspr.htm

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USS Arthur W. Radford (DD-968) was a Spruance class destroyer not a Ticonderoga class cruiser. [mod edit: associated posts merged to CASF: Spruance topic].
In May 1997, Arthur W. Radford received the first shipboard installation of the Advanced Enclosed Mast/Sensor System which fully integrates advanced materials, structures, and manufacturing technologies with sensor technology, electromagnetics, and signature reduction to achieve improved warfighting capabilities.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Arthur_W._Radford


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I'm going to be working up a small logo for a friend of mine, for display on his game streams on Twitch.tv. He served on Spruance-class DDs before joining the Navy Band, and I thought about basing the logo on one of the structural frames, either Frame No. 1, or else the frame closest to where the forward superstructure is located.

Something as simple as a top-down photo of plans is perfectly workable; all that is needed is the general shape, and I can take care of the rest.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:13 am 
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I have drawings of frames 70, 138 & 268 saved on my computer if you need them.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:53 pm 
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DavidP wrote:
I have drawings of frames 70, 138 & 268 saved on my computer if you need them.


That would be much appreciated. All I need is the most basic size, everything else I can take care of in Photoshop, including resizing et cetera.

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need email address to send to.


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Hi all, does anyone know of a source to acquire a copy of the Booklet Of General Plans for any ship of the Spruance or Kidd class?

Thanks,


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I have drawings of her decks plus some frames but no side profiles. look at this link about halfway down. http://www.floatingdrydock.com/Bu.htm


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Here is this one on Ebay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/112049730165

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