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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:43 pm 
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Hi Dan. I've been following your comments regarding Hasagawa's new 1/700 Yugumo release and the different degaussing cable patterns. Does the degaussing cable on the new 1/700 Asahio from Hasagawa align to a specific shipyard also? Additionally, is the different AA platform on the Minegumo release due to upgraded AA suite or just builder's fancy? :

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:43 pm 
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Hi, Greg .

Unfortunately, there is virtually no information on which shipyards may have installed the degaussing cables on the Asashios, nor as to whether or not there are variations between ships. In fact, AFAIK, there is only one photo of the class members that is clear enough to show the cable, that of Arare in April, 1942.

The aft end is indistinct, but certainly the forward half matches what Hasegawa has molded for its new Asashios. In the absence of any other information (though I do have one other, 2nd hand source that I will check tonite), I guess we can only assume that this is correct. :scratch:

While I don't know exactly what Hasegawa used as a template for Minegumo's change of platform, I will note that: 1) other DDs that entered the yards in late 1942 for repair began to receive upgraded AA fits, 2) Minegumo spent 3 months under repair from bomb near misses in Oct, 1942, not departing Yokosuka until the beginning of Feb, 1943, & 3) the revised platform matches schematics for Yamagumo and Michishio in June 1944, though they have slight indents at the leading edge of the platform. This is a long winded way of saying it's probably correct, though adding the indent couldn't hurt. My opinion.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:30 pm 
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Thanks for the quick response, Dan. I would like to purchase each of the new Hasagawa DD releases and didn't want to make any obvious errors by ascribing incorrect features to whichever ship I choose to model. It looks like Asashio or Minegumo could be used to build any class member as long as it is the correct year.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:10 pm 
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I believe so. I only have the Asashio kit so far (expect a review next month), but examining the Minegumo kit piece layout leads me to believe that components of mid and late war versions are there as well. I see much the same with the Hayanami kit (review in 2-3 months). This suggests that Hasegawa will eventually release new boxings in late war fit for both, though you may not have to wait if I am correct. At least on the Asashios; the Yugumo do require a different bridge form (in the back) which is not available with the Hayanami kit.


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In conjunction with the review of the new Hasegawa Asashio class kit ( http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/sh ... /index.htm ), here are some comparison views between it and the older Pit-Road kit:


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From the pictures it appears there is a significant difference in hull width, especially aft.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:22 pm 
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Thanks for posting the detailed review of the new Hasagawa Asashio, Dan. It looks great! (I just ordered this and the new Yugumo for my stash.) I had a couple kit-specific questions. Regarding the heavily-molded breakwater on the foredeck: did the breakwater actually extend across the entire width of the deck, or was this just a compromise to the manner in which the part was manufactured? (Wondering if it's best to remove and replace this feature entirely?) For the part containing the two forward torpedo reloads: there are two small rectangular features directly in front of the reload bays which are covered with treading: are these hatches or skylights? Thanks again for the great write-up and pics; I always enjoy your historical overviews and personal insights.

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You are most welcome, Greg. :smallsmile:

Regarding the breakwater, it did not extend the full width of the deck, if it even existed at all. I'm actually not positive about that. Available photographs are unclear on the actual, full shape. It was probably no wider than the turret, which was typcial of the previous classes.

The two rectangles are access hatches. The treading on them may be conjecture.

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Thanks again for the great write-up and pics; I always enjoy your historical overviews and personal insights.


Thank you. I like to put the ships in their proper context. I hope it helps to get a sense of how a design fitted into their scheme of things.

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From the pictures it appears there is a significant difference in hull width, especially aft.


I would agree. I can't say that I sat with a micrometer and ruler and compared it to plans, but I think the Hasegawa kit is closer to the reality.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:58 am 
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Also, as expected, Hasgawa has announced it's new late war version, as Kasumi. To be released at the Shizuoka show in May. (Image courtesy of HobbySearch Japan.)


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