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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 12:41 pm 
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Hasegawa beauty shots of the new Asashimo kit, to be released any day. Note the new bridge structure, larger cupola atop the main gun director, aft roll-off depth charge racks and most interestingly, a double rack of athwartship depth charge racks aft. I've seen this arrangement before on a large model of a late war Hamakaze, but I've never come across documentation for it. Certainly, the Fukui armament surveys of June/July 1944 doesn't show two racks at that point in time.

This doesn't mean it's wrong. It sort of makes sense for a 1945 version. There are precedents for double racks on the Akizukis and Matsu/Tachibana class ships. The second rack is emplaced on the base where the the paravane winch used to be. Very interesting.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:04 am 
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Hello Dan,
I want to build the Konvoi Hi-71. At this convoi the DD Fujinami was attached.
If I got your review right I can build the Fujinami OOTB from the new Hasegawa Hayanami. The outfit should be more or less the same in mid 1944.
Just a question regarding the pe set, Tetra Models make a specific set for the Hayanami but without the masts.
And I think Hasagawa also have no mast in there set. So the best option would be the 5Star late set.
Of course the tripod I have to scratch, but the top part of the mast should be similar.

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I want to build the Konvoi Hi-71. At this convoi the DD Fujinami was attached.


Classic. And how cool is it that Hayasui, Taiyo, Irako, Yunagi and the Kaibokans are already in kit form? Also a Kamikaze class kit for Asanagi.

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I can build the Fujinami OOTB from the new Hasegawa Hayanami. The outfit should be more or less the same in mid 1944.


Correct. Be sure to utilize Sprue F for the later war AA and depth charge upgrades, also the face of the bridge needs a few extra portholes, as Fujinami was from the initial batch.

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So the best option would be the 5Star late set. Of course the tripod I have to scratch, but the top part of the mast should be similar.


Also correct. The set has all the masts and yardarms, if you wish to use them. Note that the upper mast had a slight rake to the rear, as did Hayanami. These masts were purpose built to carry the Type 22 radar, as opposed to conversions of the early war tripod ships. The 5 Star set also has the proper setup for the forward boat davits.

I hope you post a W-I-P on this build.


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Thanks Dan for you quick response.
I have to finish some older builds, but this could be my next project.
I have the Hayasui and the Irako and I also got the second last kit of the BMK Tamatsu/Mayasan Maru.
And I think one of the Fujimi oilers was also there. So with the new pe set that would be also an option.
So building three transport and a Kaikoban and a destroyer would look impressive.

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Teiyo Maru was a prototype of the Kawasaki type tankers. The Fujimi kit can be modified.


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Thanks again Dan, when I start the project I know where to ask here :thumbs_up_1: .

Greetings Christian

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I'm curious if anyone has obtained the new Asashimo kit and can report on whether or not the hull has any bowing to it?

Also, Hasegawa is set to release a fourth boxing, that of another Fujinagata-built ship, Akishimo, at the end of this month. (box art courtesy of Hasegawa)


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Dan K wrote:
I'm curious if anyone has obtained the new Asashimo kit and can report on whether or not the hull has any bowing to it?

Also, Hasegawa is set to release a fourth boxing, that of another Fujinagata-built ship, Akishimo, at the end of this month. (box art courtesy of Hasegawa)


Hi Dan, I have the new Asashimo and the Kasumi kits in hand. At least in my examples the hulls are without the bowing issue and lies flat on the table top. Not that bowing bothers me as I am a big fan of full hull :heh:


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 12:00 pm 
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At least in my examples the hulls are without the bowing issue and lies flat on the table top.


YEA!! Particularly as my Asashimo and Kasumi are now enroute.

Much appreciated, Caledonia


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:03 am 
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No problems, Dan K


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I'm most unhappy. My Akishimo showed up with the worst case of bowing yet. The fix, if it exists, seems premature. Or, I'm cursed.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:20 am 
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Dan K wrote:
I'm most unhappy. My Akishimo showed up with the worst case of bowing yet. The fix, if it exists, seems premature. Or, I'm cursed.


Hi Dan K I feel very sorry for your Akishimo mishap. Here is my sample of the kasumi and Asashimo. You can see Kasumi is perfect flat against the top of the cabinet it is resting on. The hull is directly out of box without any fixing. Although Asashimo has been already fitted to the bottom hull, I don't remember it bowing like the one showing in your sample. I am wondering could it be an isolated case and back luck that you received a distorted hull?

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I appreciate the sympathy. :smallsmile: Yours do look good.

I'm not so certain it's a one-off. I was unable to contact Hasegawa directly, so I touched base with Hobbylink Japan, from whom I purchased the kit. In turn, HLJ graciously contacted Hasegawa. HLJ reported that Hasegawa said that's the way the hull is made, and it is intended to be glued down onto a base once completed.

Hasegawa's response is about the lamest excuse I've ever heard. Also the first time in 35 years of modeling their kits that I've heard that the hulls are "supposed to be glued down". Gee, do you think their Japanese customers know that?

OTOH, HLJ was gracious enough to give me a 50% credit. Now that's good customer service.


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Anyone know what color gray Asashimo would have been in 1945, or is this kind of info generally unknown?


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Rule of thumb for IJN greys is to check the ship's record of movement on CombinedFleet.com to see what shipyard she was last at for the period you're interested in. For February-April 1945, she'd likely be in Kure Grey since she was docked at Kure for repairs in February.

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Thanks for responding. Guess I'll go with Kure.

And you said likely - I'm guessing it's because we don't know if they repainted every time they visited a port for repairs?


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That, and because I don't know what exact date you want to depict her. The further out from her February docking period, the greater the possibility that she picked up paints from a different source that might have been something other than Kure Grey, and the greater the possibility she repainted in those stocks (even outside of a major IJN port).

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Well, since he stated 1945 to start with, I'm guessing it's for the Ten-Ichi Go sortie in April. I'd agree with Kure Grey. This refit was only 2 months prior to the sortie.


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Good evening everyone,

as I'm an avid reader on this forum, and knowledge here is really extreordenary, I hope that someone can give me an answer.
Currently, I'm building "Yugumo" (Hasegawa #461), and I wonder, what her AAA-outfit was like in late August 1942 (I like to depict her with Atago on route to Truk)? Mostly regarding her AAA on the platform aft of the main funnel. Did she have double-, or tripple-25mm??

Thank you for your help!!!

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two twin 25mm AA to either side of funnel #2. THat's it.


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