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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:07 am 
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Hello and a happy new year! :wave_1:

So, here is my building report from my model.
The original report can you find here http://forum-marinearchiv.de/smf/index.php/topic,839.0.html, but he is in German language.
For this report I used to 50 percent an translator, so please forgive me for the bad grammar.

Let's start!

It concerns a Russian (Soviet) frigate of the KRIVAK I class with the project No.: 1135 and carries the name: SWIREPY.
What so much should be called like " Animal Furiously " (this is a direct translation from an old dictionary).
This unit was built on the shipyard Yantar Zavod 820 in Kaliningrad. She owned (meanwhile it has been broken) in the original a displacement of 3420 - 3700 tons full loaded and reached a speed of 30 - 32 knots. Their masses were 123.1 - 123.5 m long and 14.1 - 14.2 m wide in addition a draught of 4.6 - 7.3 m.
An COGAG with 2 cruise gas turbines with 24,000-24,200 HP and 2 boost gas turbines with 36,000-48,600 HP on 2 waves.
The was 2 OSA-MA SAM's with 40 SA-N-4 rockets and a rocket container URK-5 with 4 SS-N-14 rockets for sea purposes and to the U-boat fight (comparably with the ASROC system) also 2*4 21 inch torpedo thrower, 2 dual Guns 76.2 mms and 2 RBU 6000 ASW rocket launcher and now the last, 12 - 20 mines.

But how did I come to this ship?
Now this moment dates back already very long. Namely I discovered in 1993 in the school library an issue of the “ModellBau Heute” 10/1992 (short MBH) at whose back a model of the “Wachschiff” Drushny was illustrated. After short search I had found a mini model plan in 1/250 of Bernd Loose and also fallen in love in the silhouette of the ship. But as a small boy of 14 years I did not trust to myself to start the model. But if I am "big I will build it … and therefore it fell into oblivion. With the cleaning out in 2004 I have got the plan again in the fingers and have found thanks of the WWW 2005 a model plan of the Krivak class in 1/100. Unfortunately, I had to find out during my search that the model ships and model plans "of our big brother" - the Soviet Union at that time - anyhow goods in short supply are and also have been forgotten!
Here a picture of the class:

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As the first I started to copy the plan on 1/72, and have practiced myself in the processing of silicone and Resin, because I must make not many parts individually, but only one prototype.
At the moment I have soldered both Air and Sea radar ready and now I am to build the chimney. The most important - the Hull - I have not started yet, because I have no Room to do this work. I hope that I find a room by a good friend. Then pictures of the body construction follow later.



Here now the first part of my construction report of the Sea and Air control radar on the ships of the Krivak-I class (project 1135).
Here I soldered the vertical antenna construction. At this moment there are 30 INDIVIDUAL PARTS!!!

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Then the rear horizontal braces were soldered, and then followed the front braces! Now these are 34 parts.

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It went on with the front diagonal braces, what work (I would sometimes have wished more than the third hand). I have protected the near soldered places
against the soldering iron with wet loo paper.

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The same play from the back, only in another direction.
I arrived now 66 individuals parts (Slowly the work wears out the nerves)!

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Yes the work approaches the end, I attached the exterior frame.

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Before the last but one step, the insert of the vertical braces in front (marked with arrow).

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Then the real vertical holders of the aerial mirror were soldered and the struts were appropriated for the aerial emitter. Unfortunately, I have forgotten there to do a photo from And in the end a piece of aviation grids what has retired stuck.

Then the actual vertical holders of the antenna mirror were soldered on and the braces
made for the antenna exciter.
I forgot to make a photo.

And to the end, a piece of aviation grids glued on.

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I must cut off only with sharp scissors the edges and move a thin wire therefore used as an end. All in all, these are now 114 individual parts for an antenna, the second will attach 30 ° tilted behind it.
Oh, the complete assembly of an antenna lasted 30 working hours!!

To the measures:
In 1/72 10.45 cm is the antenna along,
at the thickest place 2.2 cm wide
and 4 cm depression.

The pedestal where the two antennae are attached is unfortunately only 0.8 cm in the diameter.
I wanted to make actually the antenna rotatable, for tips concerning that I would be thankful.

to be continued .......


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:41 am 
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Very nice Bluehawk , a lot of work put in to that.

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Wow, very impressive! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

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Hi Bluehawk Some very skillful work going into your radar array. Please keep us updated .
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If you haven't take a look at the images on the other forum. I am so jealous!

Very fine work!

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Hello again! :wave_1:

As the next step I have started with the to starboard side of the chimney,
I enjoy this!! :big_grin:
A fan grid prototype in production:

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And now the starboard side with installed fan grids:

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Then I have inserted the doors and added the front, all ventilators this starboard antenna and the port side with rough holes for the fan grids.

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Now two pictures of the chimney construction, put together, attached antenna and sprouts in order to come to the chimney.

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Here the side view.

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So the undercoat is put on and one sees where I still have to work.
Pictures still come. :woo_hoo:

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Here my work what I and a Friend have done during the winter and spring 2005/06.
The hull was laid down!
Mine is the right!

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Then I filled the hull with plaster, I would make a mould of the hull then I can later build a Krivak-II or III.

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The bigger hull is the Sovremenny from a friend, of course in 1/72 scale.
And the next weeks I must sand, sand, sand… :frown_2:

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Hi Martin So that's how you solved the problem of the side vents. Must remember that one. I've strugled a bit in that area . I take it by the "production line" that your main interest is in Soviet period warships? Good method of build , but these must be massive models at 1:72 , especially the Udaloy. You have inspired me to get some more progress pictures of Kiev posted .I've spent months just doing the invisible bits, that is what they seem like . How about 250 life raft containers with 250 x 6 bits that form each of the seats , I should have cast the lot and be done with it? . Great to see your builts on the board. :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :wave_1:
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Very nice to see this work come together, finally a more modern ship in the scratchbuild section and a big one at that. If you need any reference pictures, please ask, I'll have a look for you. I have some Krivak dry dock shots too.

Great work so far, good luck with the sanding!

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Hello!

@ Dave Wooley
Your'e right! My main interest is the Soviet and now the Russian Navy.
For the Fan's i've made a silikon mould. The Fan are made with Resin. When you like i can create a little "How to do!"?!
With this method you need 10 - 12 hours and you have 250 life raft containers, when you've made a mould of 10 life raft containers. :woo_hoo:

@Neptune
I'm glad to hear that you have pictures from a Krivak in a drydock :shock: of course, i'm interest in any pictures from Soviet ships.
My Friend build the Sovremenny class Destoyer. he needs also pictures, the best where drydock shots of the stern. He and I think that the plan he has is not correct.

So now what plans we (my Friend and I) have.
Udaloy, Sovremenny, Kiew (not so good, Dave can you told me where you get your's?), Kirow, Tarantul-I, Grisha, Mirka-II,Krivak I-II,Slava

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Hello!! :wave_1:
I used free time to build the deckhouse that sit’s on the chimney.
Look here:

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Then I built an antenna mounted on the deckhouse:
First I have bent me three rings (one for the safety) and taken one stick and cut it in the right size.

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The rings were straightened cut into the half and then soldered:

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As next I had to produce another ring. I don’t know no what he do or for what he is.
On the following photo you see the ring and the six braces.

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The braces were soldered on:

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Next step, cut the braces in the middle so you get 12 braces to hold the construction.
Here a picture with the loop antenna.

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So, now I soldered this ring onto the loop antenna.

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Hello Martin,

I posted some pictures here, they are reduced in size though. If you want I can mail you the full size version.

http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=4727&start=240
If you check the "Calling all Russian/Soviet Ship fans" topic in the Calling all ship fans section of this board, you might find other interesting things too. One thing I can already tell you, all Russian ships, except for Kirov and Kuznetsov, have a single rudder, that includes the Sovremenny, Udaloy and Krivak.
I can also deliver Grisha and Slava stuff if needed. I'll try to post pictures in the above linked topic everytime I have the time. If you find something interesting you can PM me and I'll send you the bigger version then.

Great work up till now, I love your clean method of building. My styrene cuts always end up bent and deformed.

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Hello again! :wave_1:
Thanks for your comments. :thanks:

Here is the next part of my build report.
Enjoy!

Here can you see the chimney and the deckhouse together.
I soldered a ladder and one door attached.

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The deckhouse on the right place:

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And a side view of both:

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I must sanding the chimney and fill out some holes, so they looks fine. :frown_2:

In the next post I show you the build of my mould from the hull.

Greeting
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Hello Martin We have a modeller here in the UK that has built a 1:72 Sovremenny and Udaloy 1 . His work like your is very good with his hulls being made up from card treated with resin which is exceptionally strong and light. The pictures are on the site, but well off the board . I built Moskva some years ago at 1:125 but since then much more information has come to light. It's a pity though that "Cold War" ships like the Moskva are long gone as they would have made an interesting "ship tour". In 04 I managed to get around the Udaloy 2 Admiral Chabanenko, an interesting ship and in 05 the Admiral Levchenko . I note that you mould many of your fittings, a process I've yet to get into.
Please keep you build pictures coming, and thanks for sharing. :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:
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Hello Dave,

the reason why I mould many of my fittings is very simple. In my next post i will show you how I made the mould of the hull... the same mould i can use to built a Krivak-II or III the hull is the same, only a few differences and with a little work fast to do.
Many fittings are the same an the Sovremenny, Udaloy, Slava etc. like the fittings on the Krivak.
In this way I can save many work and time for my future projects!

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Hello :wave_1:

After I got the hull prototype coloured he’s ready to make the mould!

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I could begin with the lamination of the negative mould.
After I was having read many stuff and I decided on following the instructions from the R&G mentor.
First a separating-board was built and set all drill for the pass dowels and screw connections, after that the separating-board was put centrally on the prototype.

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Here you can see my friend in order to help me.

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Here you see me during the lamination of a Fiberglas (Body) 580g/m²

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And the end of a half day work.

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And a week later the other side of the mould has been made.

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Hi Martin Beautiful Job !! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:
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How is it going with your Krivak 1 Class model? Any new pictures?

I will be restarting my model this easter after having to wait for enough funds to continue. This weekend I am of to the shop to buy the material for fiberglassing.
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Hello! :wave_1:

Sorry, about the late answer, but i had not many freetime and i must translate the builtreport too.
So i working on it!

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Hello again! :wave_1:

After a fast translation…..pictures speaks more than thousand words!
So here comes a few new pictures!

Next step was to laminate the hull and here you can see the Materials I have used.

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Two days of drying later, the hull presented itself shortly before take them out of the mould.

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Now I open carefully the mould

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Then makes it “Bäng!”

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That was the first side of the mould, second is to come!

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Now the hull lay before us.

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Here can you see my friend and I by the inspection of the hull.

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And here the 1.71 meters hull of the Krivak-I and me.

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:woo_hoo:

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