The Ship Model Forum

I'm just starting WEMs HMS Musketeer. Really nice kit, hope I can do it jutice!
Fraser

I have my various Revell Tribals... and both the Skywave and Tamiya Onslows in various stages of being fiddled with. Maybe this weekend I'll tidy up the deck of the one which will end up as a 4" gun version. Hacking off the HA gun and its mount without gouging the surroundings was just a little nerve-wracking....

Oh yes and there is a very old Matchbox Kelly awaiting rebuilding.

And the various Airfix RN destroyers too, though I'm not exactly looking forward to building models that are as old as me.

David,

Have you thought about the B-Resina kits? They are resin 1/700 and repeat the Airfix 1/600 destroyers.

They area bit basic and do want a bit of detail adding to them, but basically they are not bad. The resin used is very easy to work with and doesn't shatter.

If you are attending Telford, both my and Mike McCabe's B-resina efforts will be there.

Thanks for the note on the new Hood. Missing parts wouldn't be a problem for me as I buy a Hood every so often for the spares. I am bound to have a bandstand left over.

Cheers,

Rob

Dear All
Please see attached link, Niko models to produce kit of Nizam! Could this be a vintage year for RN destroyer fans?

http://www.nikomodel.pl/nizam.htm

Mike

Mike I saw this on WEM's online catalogue but I couldnt find anymore details!!!

Cheers

Hi Laurence
Yes I know where you mean about the WSW kits, they are often there recently. I will probably try and get one at some point.

Another 1-0 should be no problem next time around

Mike

Hi, Having searched the internet high & low, near & far, I feel there is alack of photos of the interior of destroyer bridges. I'm keen to get some reference material on how the front of the bridge should look- i.e looking from the back of the bridge forward to the area underneath the windshield. The model will be of a K Class destroyer but since many classes of destroyer shared the same bridge layout I didn't want to restrict the thread to just the Ks. Hopefully someone will have some useful photos to share??

I'm afraid most of those types of useful closeup photos for say J,K,N, Tribal destroyers onwards will usually only be in the possession of ex-crew mates or copyrighted official Navy photographs now transferred to the IWM from the MoD.

I wasn't entirely clear in my mind with your description.
Do you mean you want a photograph of the bridge face?
By this I mean the photographer is standing with his back to 'B' mounting and pointing at the front of the bridge?
Or by interior do you mean the compass platform/bridge where the officer of the watch, Captain et al stood?

I think you mean the latter, if so there are quite a lot of photos taken on bridges, they are just not in circulation and you will have to visit archives and do research or buy out-of-print destroyer/RN WW2 books which have the odd one printedin.
Depending on your budget will dictate which ones you can buy.

If you can, order a copy of Edgar J March British Destroyers book through Inter-library loan he has drawn all 4 faces of a bridge interior for a Battle class which might give you some idea.

Thanks for that- Yep, I meant the latter- ie. standing on the compass platform.

What part of the bridge interior are you trying to model and on what ship?
Do you own any destroyer books are are wishing to buy any?

The problem with a lot of bridge interior photos is naturally there are bodies in the way!

Ideally the best ones are usually taken from the DCT looking down.

Its the forward most part of the interior, ie, the part just in front of the binnacle, poloris etc for HMS Kelly. I'm not sure whether there should be a bulkhead or half-head / half-open or completely open etc... The only really relevant book i have is 'The Kelly's'.

This sort of thing- though obviously of a destroyer bridge...

http://content.answers.com/main/content ... bridge.jpg

Buy Tribal class destroyers by Peter Hodges for an excellent photo of a Tribal's bridge interior taken from her DCT looking downward and shoing you the angle your desire.
I cannot post as copyrighted image I'm afraid.

The only K-class one I know I have in my database is this one.
Though I know it doesn't show what you exactly desire, a bridge interior,
it as a good historical photograph none the less.

Taken onboard HMS Kimberley, Winston Churchill with Mr R. Patterson U.S. Under-Secretary for War to his left both observe the allied landings on the French Riviera coast.
Does anyone else recognise any of the other officers?:

Is that not FIELD MARSHAL MONTGOMERY behind the field glass,s.

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Simple but effective.

Thanks for the photo and the heads up on the book. I don't think it can be Montgomery as I believe the cap badge is a US Army one.

None of the faces are Monty's
He nearly always wore a beret with two crests on, all these officers have peaked caps on.

Unless you mean the chap whos back is to the camera?, he has the right ears!!

I am currently painting HMS Kipling. I wish it would hurry up and finish itself. Waiting for oil paints to dry in the middle of winter is.... arduous.... kind of like watching paint dry in the middle of winter.

On the upside though, because paints take so long to dry, I am considering painting a second RN destroyer in tandem with this one. Perhaps HMS Onslow, as per the Battle of the Barrents Sea - although I tend to be rather enfatuated with RN destroyers anyway; this ship in particular I am interested in because of her prominent New Zealand connection:

On 31st December 1942, 220nm NW of the Kola inlet, when Onslow was engaged with the DKM Cruiser Admiral Hipper - Onslow suffered three very serious 8" shell hits, which also injured the ship's C.O. Captain Sherbrooke. One of the men responsible for bringing the fires under control was kiwi, Lt. Lewis King RNZNVR - who had only been first lieutenant for one month prior to this action. While the ship had suffered 20 percent loss in personnel through casulties (the forward fire and damage party had been wiped out by a shell explosion), his actions included helping put out the fires which had engulfed the forward part of the ship, rigging a collission mat over the impact point, and tending to the safety of the ship's company, helping to ensure that HMS Onslow remained in the action.

Captain Sherbrooke later wrote of him:

Her [HMS Onslow] safe arrival in harbour 24 hours later is testimony to his [Lt. L. King] sound judgement and untiring efforts. In courage and leadership he set a fine example to his men and that their morale remained as high as ever is a tribute to their first lieutenant.

Lt. Lewis King RNZNVR was later awarded the DSC for gallantry in this battle, and continued to serve aboard HMS Onslow.

Pretty neat story, whether you are a kiwi or not... we have certainly made an impression or two on Her Majesty's RN!

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I think this chap looks too old to be Mr. Montgomery. By the way, Churchill looks very busy with his sunglasses and cigar!!!!

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Each one better than the last"
John Fisher

Also by this date Monty would be commanding his troops on the shores of France.

Why do you believe that the ship is the Kimberly?